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Old 12-28-2003, 09:16 AM   #58 (permalink)
Strange Famous
follower of the child's crusade?
 
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Originally posted by Endymon32
And I love how he dismisses all the communist nations that butchered their own populace and started wars as "not communist"

So I will use his argument and say this to Strange Famous.

There was never a capitalist nations on earth, so you cant blame capitalism for anything. Why? Cause every capitalist nation has elements fo socialism. So by Strange Famous's logic, Capitalism is glorious, since there has never been a pure capitalist country.
Capitalism is an economic system and I think that it is very hard to deny that it is the economic system currently prevalent in this world.

The end of WWI was the death of industrial capitalism. people like Marx, Engels, Lenin, all expected communism to be born, but instead "social capitalism" was born - a capitalism economy but also with a welfare state and some state intervention and partnership with industry.

By making these concessions, the capitalist mode of production has gone on almost 100 years passed what should have been its sell by date. My belief is the same intrinsic flaws still exist and will still mean capitalism cannot help but destroy itself.

As a system of economy, capitalism has created huge technical and industrial advantages, has created very real freedoms, without real and total freedom - but there is so much it cannot do. It cannot protect the environment adequately from the irresponsible plundering of natural resources, it cannot protect us from pollution, constant threat of wars, and gross inequalitym internationally and locally.

We have created awesome productive power, yet we cannot stop this productive power polluting the world, the profit mechanism has become too powerful for mankind to control, we must bring it under control to go forward now. This is the aim of socialism, to place the economy under the control of human will, and not blind market forces that lust only for profit and the accumulation of more capital, no matter what the human or social cost.
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