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Old 12-28-2003, 08:19 AM   #55 (permalink)
Strange Famous
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Originally posted by debaser

How do you intend to stop people from overpopulating your new utopia?

How do you plan stop a faction that decides it is in their interest to have more than their share?

How do you determine what each individuals needs are?

How do you plan to enlighten the population of this planet to the point where they will go along with your plan?

Who is going to shovel shit in your society?

How do you foster pride when you remove all individualism from society?

Have you read 1984?
1, Population will be far more controlled by making birth control widely available to those who wish to use it, and in the other direction by offering the best medical care to all people.

The superior organisation and ever advancing technology of communism will allow the earth to support a greater population.

I find it appalling for the argument that capitalsim operates a system of supply and demand even against the lives of human beings to be considered as an argument in its favour.

2, The interests of all are decided by all, there will be no factionalism in a truly communist society, because there will be no argument concerning the big issues - which have all been solved. The only debates will be concerning matters of organisation. It is capitalism and the state that causes great divides in society, by gender, class, race - class will not exist in the future, nor will racism or sexism.

What we are saying is that people have evolved to a level when they CAN be trusted. There may well always be a level of deviance, caused by mental illness, but the vat majority of crime and deviance we see today is created by class divides, capitalism exploitation, racism, and ignorance, and brute poverty. These causes will all be eliminated.

People in the future will not WANT to claim more than they need. There will still need to be a management of the society, the practical issues still need to be managed, but this is done by a body answerable to and inseparable from the will of the people as a people, the general will if you like - which rises above petty personal interest.

3, By democracy, by common sense. We know and understand today the things that people need - health care, security, a home, reasonable leisure time and activities, the ability to be creative - these are the things we give to our people. of course, even in communism, there will be a hugely diverse number of resources available to people, and choice as to which of them they wish to consume.

4, The enlightenment of the people is happening all the time. Already the general population is rejecting capitalism and the state, the youth rejects the old guard and the outdated system of capitalism, people intrinsically hold dear to them certain values - fairness, peace, decency, compassion - communism is the realisation of what every person already knows to be right.

5, Do a degree we hope to allocate jobs according to ability. At the same time, we know that the technology we have now will be vastly increased when freed from the fetters of capitalist, exploitative economy... yes, there still will be work to done after the revolution that will be unpleasant... I think it will be handled in a variety of ways. There will be far less unpleasant work, there will be a genuine meritocracy so that people have jobs that suit there skills, jobs which are unpleasant will be shared, and expanded so that there are also pleasant parts. There will be no toilet cleaners after the revolution, even if toilets still must be cleaned.

6, Pride comes from the success and glory of the collectivism, of society, and also internally, from the part you individually play in the great society.
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