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GakFace · 12-25-2003, 02:53 AM

I'm sorry but I find this "debate" a little fucked up. First off you guys are stating reasons why people must believe in god. If you don't believe yourself, then who the hell are you to state why others believe. Lots of people don't believe just because they grew up to it. Yes they might when they were younger, but there comes a time when everyone evaluation their faith... thus this reason is BS. I have yet to see this one. As for the fear? Yeah I suppose that one could be a working one... but if many people only believe because they are scared... don't you think many of them would just try to figure out God's existance so they can hopefully ignore it or find a loophole? That seems more logical to me. I have yet to see a christian that acts the way they do because they are scared of God. They are happy with they live their life, not scared shitless. Megalomania? Yeah, I can see this one happening, I won't disagree with that. The fact that its a main reason though, I will disagree with. That sounds more like the assholes that also believe in God. "I have a god, you don't, so FUCK YOU" kinda thing... not everyone has that belief.. I'd put that much lower than a top three.

Another thing, whats this "I don't believe in God I believe is science" Or "Rationalism is Anti-Religion." Now I'm sorry, but I believe is Science, Rational, and God. OOOOOOH did you catch that? all fucking three. It IS possible you know. For this being a philosophy board I figured this would be a given, something even I remember discussing in philosophy course.

God = No Freedom? Maybe to some, but not to all. I have freedom to do whatever the hell I want. My life is good. I don't want to live it any other way, even IF God did not exist. He doesn't restrict what I do.. luckily for me, I just prefer to help people than to screw them over.

Faith? Why do we still have faith? Faith != christianity. Some have faith is science, some have faith in God, some have faith in their car that it wont' break down on the interstate when its -40 degrees outside. I don't think Fait is the word you really want to go for.

Oh, um Tecoyah? Yeah you say people NEED God? Who the hell are to make such a bold statement as this? You don't even believe. If you think SOME people NEED God.. then my apology, but you didn't so you just generalized all believers as someone that HAS TO have a God. Sorry but thats very very wrong. Also if you state that people NEED a god, and you don't seem the slightest bit willing to change your mind... you don't have that open mind you think you do.

Dragon2Fire, we have an entire life as "proving grounds" to live in a life of harmony without all that greedy bullshit we see here. Thats why its here and not there. I mean think about it.. if someone doesn't give a rat's ass about you, why would you invite them to your house? Think about that, I don't invite people over if I don't care for them, or if I hate them... Why can't a God do the same thing.. Is it not possible for a God to care too? Besides, the funny thing is this. You are stating God is evil as he sends people to hell. So you are saying you don't believe in God, yet you do believe that he sends people to hell. How does that make sense? Figure that out a bit more, he doesn't just send people to hell of the whim. I personally don't think that many people go to hell. IF you're a good person, you still have a chance to that harmony of which I speak. God is like the master poker player, he's had the time to look at us and just KNOW if we're lying or not. When we die and get judged, he'll KNOW if you honestly are good and want to be up there with him or if you don't. This doesn't mean ignore God until you die.. as I'm sure he'd see that too. But there are people who don't believe cause it just doesn't make sense or doesn't seem plausable. I think that when they get judged they still can be "saved." I put that in quotes for a reason, I'm sure you can understand why. Also I am going to be a bit redundent with this but... You don't want to follow a god who doesn't invite people into his land that don't like him..... just as you don't seem to want to follow him as is sounds like you don't like him. So your reasons to not like him are very similiar to his reasons to not let people into heaven... Kinda weird, is it not?

As for me? I was born and raised Catholic, and then I took time to look upon my faith and analyze it. I still very much believe in God, but not for any of the reasons I saw stated here by the non believers. Personally, aside from it making sense, much like the response "Because it exists.... just like gravity".. there is also this. I have gone through too much in my life for me to NOT believe. To not believe would be to ignore everything I have witnessed. I can tell you some of the things I have witnessed, and if you honestly are not willing even willing to believe me(or at least leave your mind open to it being possible), then you'll just see me as insane. If that is to be the case, then so be it. You don't have to believe me, but you should take a more open mind before judging me to be an insane lunatic. I was one of the main people going to get the Paranoia boards started. So that I would have a place to express many of the things that I witnessed. Personal Experience is a reason why people believe in God. (maybe not all, but its my reason for one, and I haven't seen a single non believer state this one) I am a Junior in College, majoring in Psychology. I am probably going to take a minor in Computer Science and Anthropology.

I would also like to point something out. Doesn't it strike anyone as odd that the people on this board who do believe in God don't make us shitty excuses as to why people don't believe... Yet many of the people who don't believe are making up some rather crude responses for anyone that does?

12-25-2003, 02:53 AM	#38 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	I'm sorry but I find this "debate" a little fucked up. First off you guys are stating reasons why people must believe in god. If you don't believe yourself, then who the hell are you to state why others believe. Lots of people don't believe just because they grew up to it. Yes they might when they were younger, but there comes a time when everyone evaluation their faith... thus this reason is BS. I have yet to see this one. As for the fear? Yeah I suppose that one could be a working one... but if many people only believe because they are scared... don't you think many of them would just try to figure out God's existance so they can hopefully ignore it or find a loophole? That seems more logical to me. I have yet to see a christian that acts the way they do because they are scared of God. They are happy with they live their life, not scared shitless. Megalomania? Yeah, I can see this one happening, I won't disagree with that. The fact that its a main reason though, I will disagree with. That sounds more like the assholes that also believe in God. "I have a god, you don't, so FUCK YOU" kinda thing... not everyone has that belief.. I'd put that much lower than a top three. Another thing, whats this "I don't believe in God I believe is science" Or "Rationalism is Anti-Religion." Now I'm sorry, but I believe is Science, Rational, and God. OOOOOOH did you catch that? all fucking three. It IS possible you know. For this being a philosophy board I figured this would be a given, something even I remember discussing in philosophy course. God = No Freedom? Maybe to some, but not to all. I have freedom to do whatever the hell I want. My life is good. I don't want to live it any other way, even IF God did not exist. He doesn't restrict what I do.. luckily for me, I just prefer to help people than to screw them over. Faith? Why do we still have faith? Faith != christianity. Some have faith is science, some have faith in God, some have faith in their car that it wont' break down on the interstate when its -40 degrees outside. I don't think Fait is the word you really want to go for. Oh, um Tecoyah? Yeah you say people NEED God? Who the hell are to make such a bold statement as this? You don't even believe. If you think SOME people NEED God.. then my apology, but you didn't so you just generalized all believers as someone that HAS TO have a God. Sorry but thats very very wrong. Also if you state that people NEED a god, and you don't seem the slightest bit willing to change your mind... you don't have that open mind you think you do. Dragon2Fire, we have an entire life as "proving grounds" to live in a life of harmony without all that greedy bullshit we see here. Thats why its here and not there. I mean think about it.. if someone doesn't give a rat's ass about you, why would you invite them to your house? Think about that, I don't invite people over if I don't care for them, or if I hate them... Why can't a God do the same thing.. Is it not possible for a God to care too? Besides, the funny thing is this. You are stating God is evil as he sends people to hell. So you are saying you don't believe in God, yet you do believe that he sends people to hell. How does that make sense? Figure that out a bit more, he doesn't just send people to hell of the whim. I personally don't think that many people go to hell. IF you're a good person, you still have a chance to that harmony of which I speak. God is like the master poker player, he's had the time to look at us and just KNOW if we're lying or not. When we die and get judged, he'll KNOW if you honestly are good and want to be up there with him or if you don't. This doesn't mean ignore God until you die.. as I'm sure he'd see that too. But there are people who don't believe cause it just doesn't make sense or doesn't seem plausable. I think that when they get judged they still can be "saved." I put that in quotes for a reason, I'm sure you can understand why. Also I am going to be a bit redundent with this but... You don't want to follow a god who doesn't invite people into his land that don't like him..... just as you don't seem to want to follow him as is sounds like you don't like him. So your reasons to not like him are very similiar to his reasons to not let people into heaven... Kinda weird, is it not? As for me? I was born and raised Catholic, and then I took time to look upon my faith and analyze it. I still very much believe in God, but not for any of the reasons I saw stated here by the non believers. Personally, aside from it making sense, much like the response "Because it exists.... just like gravity".. there is also this. I have gone through too much in my life for me to NOT believe. To not believe would be to ignore everything I have witnessed. I can tell you some of the things I have witnessed, and if you honestly are not willing even willing to believe me(or at least leave your mind open to it being possible), then you'll just see me as insane. If that is to be the case, then so be it. You don't have to believe me, but you should take a more open mind before judging me to be an insane lunatic. I was one of the main people going to get the Paranoia boards started. So that I would have a place to express many of the things that I witnessed. Personal Experience is a reason why people believe in God. (maybe not all, but its my reason for one, and I haven't seen a single non believer state this one) I am a Junior in College, majoring in Psychology. I am probably going to take a minor in Computer Science and Anthropology. I would also like to point something out. Doesn't it strike anyone as odd that the people on this board who do believe in God don't make us shitty excuses as to why people don't believe... Yet many of the people who don't believe are making up some rather crude responses for anyone that does? __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.