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Old 12-23-2003, 09:23 AM   #19 (permalink)
Moonduck
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Originally posted by Mantus
Moonduck, If god can be lonely would mean that god could be swayed by instinct or some other pressure. If this world were made because god knew that it was going to be made then that would mean god had no choice but to make it.
Who says God has a choice? It has been posited in this thread that omniscience is also precognition. If one knows the future, precisely what will occur, one has no choice but to act in a particular way. God, knowing what the future holds by this thread's vague thoughts on omniscience and God, knows he will act in some predetermined manner at any time. Man is created simply because God knew man was to be created.

You seem to imply in your response that God is unswayed, emotionless. Not so, demonstrably not so. There are numerous passages in the Bible regarding God's wrath, God's love, etc. Man was made in God's image insofar as the Bible states, and man is a creature of passions, emotions. That, plus the passages on God's emotional states makes me think that God is an emotional being capable of being swayed or influenced.

I do not personally see the portrayal of the Christian God as an omniscient being. There is a subtle undercurrent in the Bible, a feeling if you will, that God is curious, and does not always know the outcome. I think the omniscience thing is hyperbole. If not, God would likely not have created Satan, nor included the Tree of Knowledge. There is the thought that Man and the Earth are a grand experiment, and that God does not know the outcome (or may have purposefully blinded himself to the knowledge).

No, I've no specific cites for this, merely a feeling from the reading I've done and discussions on the topic.
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