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Originally posted by chavos
Faith can be, by your own words, be a rational hope in something that is true. That's all i'm out to show.
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Originally posted by chavos
That is EXACTLY, with NO difference, how i experience the divine. Objective experiences create an idea. Thus, i request respect for that-faith is not a delusion, a meme gone wrong, a mental defect, or any other pejorative.
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There is always the possibility that one’s faith is based on a delusion, it happens all too often. Therefore it is important to openly question and test faith. We must all be able to look beyond faith to see other possibilities, less we become blinded by our faith.
We cannot test faith by its strength. For faith cannot prove anything to be true, it is simply hope. Therefore we must test the validity of the objects and subjects that faith is based on.
Consequently only problems can arise when a theist offers faith as proof of god. We have no tangible evidence of god. Most of the conceptual evidence used to prove the existence of god can also be used to prove the non-existence of god. So god remains a theory. What’s worse is that there are many different theories, there is indecision and sometimes even fighting over which concept is corect. Though no side has any more proof then the others, so they make the mistake of offering faith as their proof, which only leads to more problems. Some people look at this chaos and question the validity of the whole concept of god[s]. They question because they are trying to find something more tangible to have faith in.
But I am sure you already know all this, I am merely speaking my thoughts for the benefit of people who have not reached this conclusion.