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Old 12-16-2003, 06:26 PM   #22 (permalink)
j8ear
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Originally posted by Lebell
j8ear,

As I've said above, it is unfortunate that we don't know more about what was said, but of course there are appropriate topics for 2nd graders to talk about, whether you like it or not.

I do agree with you that the parenting may be called into question, but yes, children WILL get into trouble for repeating some things at school. And while guidance and teaching are always preferred, if a student persists, then yes, they should get a reprimand.

And whether you like it or not, that isn't bullshit, that is the fact that operates at schools everywhere.

So are we really in disagreement or is it simply true that we need more information for an informed opinion in this case?
I think that 'appropriateness' is a laudable educational goal for children of all ages, but punishment, or worse, disruption labels, is inappropriate in itself, without a clear and documented history of lessons and corrections (persists and repeated were the words you used). Until a seven year old is 'taught' that something is inappropriate, and has that lesson reinforced, it is not inappropriate, EVER. Anything short of that is evidence to me of a failure on the part of an educator. In that very article, the original punishment notification was something other then 'disruption' but when called to task the school declared the child disruptive. Aaaah, the old I declare it so, and my declaration is unappealable.

The school itself was extremely 'disruptive' with its actions. Who is more liable? Realistically the school, imho. Practically, the school is without fault and the child is scapegoated. (Do I have the practical/realistic backwards?)

I do agree that we definitely need more information. Until such time as it is forthcoming, I believe the school to be full of shit. They are, in my mind, guilty until proven otherwise.

Oh and:

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Originally posted by Lebell
Do you three also get po'd when you get in trouble for talking to your buddy in front of customers while discribing how you and the hot chick from the mail room went out last night and you blasted her in the ass?
Might be a little over the top itself...bordering on inappropriate. You’re not a seven year old though, and neither am I.

No matter what:

It never happened; I was out of town and wearing gloves at the time. You can't prove a thing

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