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Originally posted by onetime2
And this has what exactly to do with the current President Bush and Saddam?
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I think you are being facetious, but I'll answer your question in case you are serious.
You essentially accused Moore and his "supporters" of being irrational without suggestions. I'm presenting the case that we have a long history of a hypocritical stance that we are standard bearers of democracy. Besides the point fact that we shouldn't be meddling with or overthrowing democratic elections abroad on principle, the evidence certainly suggests that these actions lead to the scenarios we are currently in.
The reponses you are giving me indicate that you are unable to connect our historical acts with our current foreign dilemmas. They are not due to some blind hatred for our freedoms, they are rational responses to being on the blunt end of decades of bloody, imperialist actions.
This refusal or inability to make these connections places us in a dilemma and lead many of our citizens to walk around stupidly proclaiming that we haven't done anything to provoke the anger many citizens around the world feel towards us. How can we stop pissing people off if we don't believe we are in the wrong?
You asked what us "lefties" would have us do. I'm answering that while we might debate another day on the merits of toppling bloody dictators, we certainly should agree that we ought not have a hand in creating them. Superbelt already raised the point that we are currenlty doing exactly that. Then you suggested that our actions were motivated by altruism. So far, I haven't seen you post any of the "many" leaders we've installed that have actually helped their native citizens.