Goodness, I've seem to have struck a cord.
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Originally posted by Mehoni
Where does it say that the kid described in detail? What IS appropriate to talka bout in second grade? Ponies and G.I Joes? Maybe we should have special classes for the girls so they learn to vacuum and iron clothes.. start at an early age, get better results. :P I mean, we can't have anything that differs from the norm...
Saying "my mom is gay" and maybe explaining "my mommy likes girls" is nothing horrible.
No talk about religion, race, sexuality (gay/bi/hetero) ANYTHING other than school subjects should ever be mentioned in that case.
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Originally posted by wilbjammin
Sexuality isn't about graphic sexual details. You're basically saying that all there is to being gay is having gay sex. This is exactly why people should talk about sexuality more openly, so we get away from this abstract model of what a gay person is to finding out that they're all just real people.
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Originally posted by j8ear
What a complete load of bullshit.
First of all, No indiction that "what mommy and mommy do at night, [you forgot to add] in their bedroom" was in anyway shape or form mentioned in the article presented.
Even given that this ~did~ occur, the appropriateness of the parenting is questionable, not the actions of the child.
Describing his or her parental units and explaining what it means is actionable by the school? Are you out of your mind?
What is appropriate to talk about in second grade? Do you believe restrictions need to be enacted so 'appropriateness' can be maintained, and 2nd graders natural iquisitiveness can be repressed?
Just because the pathetic excuse for educators and administrators that surface in our public school system, can't handle a situation with a nurturing and or educational slant, doesn't make it a disruption. Failures of educators are just that FAILURES...not student disruptions.
"Disruption" charges levied against a child are a cop out. A pure and simple cop out for a failing public educational system. Since it requires nothing more then an educator saying it...it is also probably fraudulent.
I am with the ACLU and the family/child on this one.
Fuck that pathetic, covering up, self serving school.
-bear
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So many assumptions.
Anyway, no one here knows what exactly was said, so I'll restate my position in a way that hopefully is clearer.
If the child simply told his classmates that his mommy was gay and that meant she lived with another woman, then I agree that the school board was out of bounds.
If the child was telling his classmates in detail what gay sex entails then the child was wrong.
There are times and places to talk about everything.
Do you three also get po'd when you get in trouble for talking to your buddy in front of customers while discribing how you and the hot chick from the mail room went out last night and you blasted her in the ass?
Mehoni,
All your self serving sarcasm aside, Ponies and G.I. Joes would be a fine topic...during recess or play time. The same with telling your classmates that mommy is gay.
So it seems you and I agree that class time is meant for school subjects.
wilbjammin,
I'm sorry you choose to construe what I said as meaning that being gay was about sex, but you said it, not me.
If you knew how many friends I have who are gay, you would know how silly the accusation is.
j8ear,
As I've said above, it is unfortunate that we don't know more about what was said, but of course there are appropriate topics for 2nd graders to talk about, whether you like it or not.
I do agree with you that the parenting may be called into question, but yes, children WILL get into trouble for repeating some things at school. And while guidance and teaching are always prefered, if a student persists, then yes, they should get a reprimand.
And whether you like it or not, that isn't bullshit, that is the fact that operates at schools everywhere.
So are we really in disagreement or is it simply true that we need more information for an informed opinion in this case?