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Old 12-10-2003, 08:46 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Originally posted by YourNeverThere
But the reason that I download movies is that I can't justify spending that much money on the crap that comes out today. How many sequels are coming out for no reason other than to make money and it works. I will watch them but I won't pay them any money to make crap
Dude, if you think it is crap, don't pay for it. But don't watch it either. What this seems to come out to is that you do want to see it, but only if the cost of entry is low enough (i.e. free because you steal it off of the internet). Your words say that the product is worthless, but your actions (downloading) show that you still desire it. Pick one. Either watch it or don't. If it is too expensive for you, don't watch. But to download instead of renting is to say that your laziness is more important than your desire not to steal. And it is stealing, because you are acquiring something (consuming the product of someone's labor) without paying the asking price.

Analog, I think your arguments against movie piracy are wonderful and solid. However, I believe that they apply just as well to music piracy. Your statements about your personal music downloading habits imply that your rationalizations trump your arguments against movie piracy. I just don't see that as true.

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Originally posted by Derwood
As for the stealing aspect, it's simple. People are fucking cheap. They don't want to pay for anything, so they'll rationalize stealing. And this has only started since the advent of p2p. People feel "safe" about stealing on the internet. They can do it from behind an alias and can feel pretty anonymous. Where were all you industry haters before the internet? Were you out there shoplifting CD's and movies so you could "stick it to the man"? You may have serious anti-music/movie industry feelings, but you're all fucking cowards if your way of "bringing down the system" is to sit on your ass at a computer and download shitty bootlegs of their products.
Derwood, right on man! That's telling it like it is.
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