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Old 12-07-2003, 09:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
analog
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I write what I know about and- more to the point- what I CAN write about. I've heard things about foreign movie markets that I don't know for fact, and therefore would not foist my opinion on something which may be completely contrary of the facts i'm stating to back my opinion. I.E.- i've heard that many countries actually subsidize the costs of making films, and some actually make you use the same people at the same cost no matter where you shoot, as per their law.

And when i say "shooting elsewhere" as in, out of the native country, it's not a foreign film- it's a film of your native country that just happened to be shot someplace else. And yes, I love foreign film as well.

So yeah, it kinda HAD to be slanted to the US, because that's what i'm familiar enough with to talk about in this way.

And as far as being a hypocrite, i never said stealing music wasn't stealing- i KNOW it's stealing. I never said it was OK. I was "rationalizing" it on my own part, just to fill you in. I know it's stealing to take music- i just don't give a shit about anyone that industry represents, so _I_ feel justified when _I_ download what -little- music I do. And when I say little, I mean I have probably (counts) 22 songs that I shoudln't have. Oh damn. What a horrible person am I.

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Originally posted by Journeyman
1: False. Stealing IS stealing, but copyright infringement does not deprive an entity of its property. Only the benefits that it should rightfully receive from my use of their creation.
Yes, which is depriving them of the revenue their creation would make. If you download a movie and keep it, and never pay for it- regardless of whether you resell or not, you are depriving them of monies that should have been collected from you for them granting you private use copyright. That's why they all have those "for home viewing only- distribution or exhibition of this film is unlawful and protected by copyright..." thing at the beginning.

By PURCHASING the film, you are PURCHASING the right to display it in your private home, and getting a copy of it. The right to simply download it for free does not exist. By downloading it, your are still using it without having permission. The same goes for software. If you get a piece of software, you are buying the right to use it in your home. If you get it for many people to use, like on a network, you have to pay more. If you simply download a piece of software, you have not payed for the right to use it, and therefore you are infringing on their copyright. Again, it matters not what you do with it once you get it, but the fact that you get it at all to begin with.

And actors can make money depending on how much they do. Keep in mind that very few american actors make over 20 million a movie, and MOST make a shitload less than that. After that, you have to consider all the award shows, screenings, etc. they have to go to, which all cost a significant amount of money that eats into what they make, and many of them make fairly large charitable donations on a regular basis. I'm not saying they're living hand-to-mouth, although many actors are, but they definitely have very high living expenses. Not to mention the fact that they have lost their anonymity for the rest of their lives, and pay a premium to keep stupid fuckheads from spying on them all the time.

And I can justify any kind of stealing I want while advocating against another. I don't think it makes me a hypocrite and, even if it does, it shouldn't cheapen my argument. Oh well. Can't please everyone.

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