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Old 11-30-2003, 05:36 PM   #102 (permalink)
Mephisto2
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Re: Re: Re: Re: is this art? ::i hope i just didn't say that outloud::

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Originally posted by phaedrus
So I look at that piece of blue. And I ask my self is it art on its own merits? I answer, no, it is just blue, a color test at best.
A particulary vibrant and ultra-marine. One that took years to develop and was considered so unique that a patend was granted.

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Is it art based on the context of the time? No. It was not revolutionary. It was not that original.
I would contest both of these statements. It was revoluntionary. The movement itself was revolutionary.

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Perhaps the artist was trying to challenge our notion of art.
EXACTLY! I refer you to the web-pages I mentioned above. I even quoted the artist himself.

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Perhaps he was protesting war. Who knows, it could mean anything because it says nothing. We want it to have meaning, but it says nothing.
Perhaps to you. But it does "talk" to me. I like it. I don't think it's a masterpiece, but I appreciate it. I like the colour (which our monitors do not do credit). I like the "concept".

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So we can accept what the critic or artist say it means or we can stubbornly insist is means nothing because it says nothing. I am stubborn. It means nothing, it says nothing. It is neither pretty nor did it require great skill to make. It is a fraud.
Well, I don't mean to be unnecessarily argumentative, but you're actually wrong. It took significant time and effort to create. It does say something - challenging contemporaeous attitudes toward art, colour and content - and it did require skill.

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Of course, art is always subjective. To me it is a fraud, to that museum's curator, it is art.
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Nor will I convince you.
:-) Indeed.

Actually, I can understand your position. It's just that I disagree. But I enjoy the debate none the less! \

Mr Mephisto
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