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lurkette · 11-27-2003, 05:33 AM

Geek alert:

The wizards who were sent out by the Valar were the Istari - Olorin the gray (Mithrandir/Gandalf), Curunir the white (Saruman), Aiwendil (Radagast) the brown, and two "blue" wizards (Alatar and Pallando) who apparently ran off into the east. It's speculated that they may have gone "rogue" and joined forces with Sauron but there's no real evidence for that in anything I've read.

Olorin was sent by Manwe and Varda (essentially king and queen of the Valar) as their "champion;" Aule (the "maker" Vala) sent Curinir (interesting that Aule was also the Vala to whom Sauron was originally connected); Aiwendil was sent by Yavanna; the other two by Orome.

The Valar sent the Istari back to middle earth when the first shadow of Sauron started to reappear in Greenwood/Mirkwood. Their job was ostensibly to kick his ass back to Aman, but as we saw Curunir was corrupted, Radagast was really only concerned with the beasts of the earth, the blue wizards went AWOL. Which left Olorin to do all the dirty work, aided by the ring of fire (Narya) which was given to him by Cirdan when he arrived at the Gray Havens. Cirdan apparently saw through the earthly disguise, recognized him as Maiar, and thought that he'd be able to use the elvish ring better in his battle against Sauron.

11-27-2003, 05:33 AM	#34 (permalink)
lurkette My future is coming on Moderator Emeritus Location: east of the sun and west of the moon	Geek alert: The wizards who were sent out by the Valar were the Istari - Olorin the gray (Mithrandir/Gandalf), Curunir the white (Saruman), Aiwendil (Radagast) the brown, and two "blue" wizards (Alatar and Pallando) who apparently ran off into the east. It's speculated that they may have gone "rogue" and joined forces with Sauron but there's no real evidence for that in anything I've read. Olorin was sent by Manwe and Varda (essentially king and queen of the Valar) as their "champion;" Aule (the "maker" Vala) sent Curinir (interesting that Aule was also the Vala to whom Sauron was originally connected); Aiwendil was sent by Yavanna; the other two by Orome. The Valar sent the Istari back to middle earth when the first shadow of Sauron started to reappear in Greenwood/Mirkwood. Their job was ostensibly to kick his ass back to Aman, but as we saw Curunir was corrupted, Radagast was really only concerned with the beasts of the earth, the blue wizards went AWOL. Which left Olorin to do all the dirty work, aided by the ring of fire (Narya) which was given to him by Cirdan when he arrived at the Gray Havens. Cirdan apparently saw through the earthly disguise, recognized him as Maiar, and thought that he'd be able to use the elvish ring better in his battle against Sauron. __________________ "If ten million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Anatole France Last edited by lurkette; 11-27-2003 at 01:28 PM..