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81h · 11-21-2003, 09:20 AM

God is disprovable. Everything is in the realm of proof if it is considered to exist. Proof is not an opinion, if it were, dogma would be true. Logic is the only thing that distinguishes false from true, valid from invalid, proof from disproof.

All human knowledge, even that os science, is subordinated to philosophy since philosophy is required to validate any knowledge, including scientific knowledge. Plato might say physics is just a worthless thing for us, Aristotle would say physics is imperative for us to understand what makes up the second half of epistomology.

When it comes to logic, it is required to prove things. Before math there was the logic of language, so we can say that non-mathematic systems can still be proven to a high degree of accuracy. If this was not so, mathematics would be senseless.

So when it comes to God, it cannot be disproven by physics because physics is not philosophical like God is. I hate it when physicists try to be philosophers.

Anyway...lets jump around, let's say that existence exists and reality is absolute, we know this because it is required for us to even question wether or not it is. So that is like the major premise of all logic to follow.

All that God is, don't play with the definition and say God is anything held with beleif...is impossible. Let's take omnipotence and omnicience, they are both impossible as long as the law of identity prevails, which means, nothing in infinite. Specifically speaking, God cannot be all powerful or all knowing. Can can if God is only fiction.

God cannot create existence since it would first require consciousness BEFORE existence, which is impossible. This means God has no choice about existing, it means God didn't choose reality.

The next thing is that if God were indestructable, God would have no need for value, i.e., humans. God would have no valid need for humans, unless it were all on irrational whim, and this irrational whim is fictional and is followed by monotheists. It means God is ammoral.

So God doesn't not exist, if God is accepted as fiction and just that. These would be some truly deluded people....

11-21-2003, 09:20 AM	#81 (permalink)
81h Upright	God is disprovable. Everything is in the realm of proof if it is considered to exist. Proof is not an opinion, if it were, dogma would be true. Logic is the only thing that distinguishes false from true, valid from invalid, proof from disproof. All human knowledge, even that os science, is subordinated to philosophy since philosophy is required to validate any knowledge, including scientific knowledge. Plato might say physics is just a worthless thing for us, Aristotle would say physics is imperative for us to understand what makes up the second half of epistomology. When it comes to logic, it is required to prove things. Before math there was the logic of language, so we can say that non-mathematic systems can still be proven to a high degree of accuracy. If this was not so, mathematics would be senseless. So when it comes to God, it cannot be disproven by physics because physics is not philosophical like God is. I hate it when physicists try to be philosophers. Anyway...lets jump around, let's say that existence exists and reality is absolute, we know this because it is required for us to even question wether or not it is. So that is like the major premise of all logic to follow. All that God is, don't play with the definition and say God is anything held with beleif...is impossible. Let's take omnipotence and omnicience, they are both impossible as long as the law of identity prevails, which means, nothing in infinite. Specifically speaking, God cannot be all powerful or all knowing. Can can if God is only fiction. God cannot create existence since it would first require consciousness BEFORE existence, which is impossible. This means God has no choice about existing, it means God didn't choose reality. The next thing is that if God were indestructable, God would have no need for value, i.e., humans. God would have no valid need for humans, unless it were all on irrational whim, and this irrational whim is fictional and is followed by monotheists. It means God is ammoral. So God doesn't not exist, if God is accepted as fiction and just that. These would be some truly deluded people....