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Mantus · 11-16-2003, 10:01 PM

I am too in the process of thinking about relationships, love and sex.

Though the post is coming along slowly. Here are some general points I am working on.

- You spoke about the connection being mostly self-contained. The Jungians came up with a concept of the human mind projecting pre-determined images on people we meet. So if one meets a potential mate you will immediately envelop them in your pre-determined idea of what a your mate should be. All their actions will be in context of your image of a perfect mate. Our common problem is that we tend to envelop people we know in one kind of image. For example: we look at our mothers in the image of what a mother should be. We forget that our mother is also plays a role of a lover, a friend and many other roles. The same can happen in the case of our lover. The Jungian concept defiantly holds some truths, yet I feel that it is missing something.

- A human being is controlled by instincts, habits and the consciousness. Instincts are programmed. Habits are like learned instincts. If you do something often enough and manage to survive, then it must be good for you – thefore your instinctive brain encurages it - of course since it can be wrong. The consciousness is the newest kid on the block, the least developed but has the most potential. It can override both instinct and habit, but this skill (willpower) takes practice to develop.

- Emotions are a bridge and a safety between instincts and the consciousness. They are there for two reasons. 1) To give the mind a false illusion of being in control. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to lose control of your body, while all you can do is watch? This is exactly what happens when instincts take over. 2) To allow instinctive behavior to adapt and grow. All instincts are very base, by justifying themselves to the mind as an emotion they are able to hijack its processing power to adapt to complex situations.

- Emotions are necessary, we are not ready to let go of them. Yet they can be dangerous as they are much too basic to guide us though our evolved society.

- Love – is when a person makes a conscious effort to develop a cerebral attraction to their partner. It is far from natural and far from everlasting. Love requires a constant effort. The idea is to gain control of your instinctive reproductive drive and master its energy.

- Both people have to be aware of this and be workign towards the same goal. True growth in love can only happen when both partners are fuel and sustaining each other. If one tried to develop love by oneself then a love/hate feeling begins to develop for the person of affection. The hate comes from constant feeling of incompleteness, hollowness, futility and most importantly distance.

- Most people attempt to bury the hate. It eventually surfaces.

There is allot more, but those are some ideas I am working on.

11-16-2003, 10:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mantus lascivious	I am too in the process of thinking about relationships, love and sex. Though the post is coming along slowly. Here are some general points I am working on. - You spoke about the connection being mostly self-contained. The Jungians came up with a concept of the human mind projecting pre-determined images on people we meet. So if one meets a potential mate you will immediately envelop them in your pre-determined idea of what a your mate should be. All their actions will be in context of your image of a perfect mate. Our common problem is that we tend to envelop people we know in one kind of image. For example: we look at our mothers in the image of what a mother should be. We forget that our mother is also plays a role of a lover, a friend and many other roles. The same can happen in the case of our lover. The Jungian concept defiantly holds some truths, yet I feel that it is missing something. - A human being is controlled by instincts, habits and the consciousness. Instincts are programmed. Habits are like learned instincts. If you do something often enough and manage to survive, then it must be good for you – thefore your instinctive brain encurages it - of course since it can be wrong. The consciousness is the newest kid on the block, the least developed but has the most potential. It can override both instinct and habit, but this skill (willpower) takes practice to develop. - Emotions are a bridge and a safety between instincts and the consciousness. They are there for two reasons. 1) To give the mind a false illusion of being in control. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to lose control of your body, while all you can do is watch? This is exactly what happens when instincts take over. 2) To allow instinctive behavior to adapt and grow. All instincts are very base, by justifying themselves to the mind as an emotion they are able to hijack its processing power to adapt to complex situations. - Emotions are necessary, we are not ready to let go of them. Yet they can be dangerous as they are much too basic to guide us though our evolved society. - Love – is when a person makes a conscious effort to develop a cerebral attraction to their partner. It is far from natural and far from everlasting. Love requires a constant effort. The idea is to gain control of your instinctive reproductive drive and master its energy. - Both people have to be aware of this and be workign towards the same goal. True growth in love can only happen when both partners are fuel and sustaining each other. If one tried to develop love by oneself then a love/hate feeling begins to develop for the person of affection. The hate comes from constant feeling of incompleteness, hollowness, futility and most importantly distance. - Most people attempt to bury the hate. It eventually surfaces. There is allot more, but those are some ideas I am working on. Last edited by Mantus; 11-16-2003 at 10:07 PM..