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Moobie · 11-14-2003, 08:38 AM

They wouldn't want to free everyone in the Matrix, because the majority of the people don't want to be freed. They're happy right were they are. The point is that if anyone figures out that the Matrix isn't real and wants out then they're free to leave. Also the machines are supposed to leave Zion alone. I would be more worried about the people in Zion having a grudge against the machines and ending the cease fire than the machines starting something.

Watch the Animatrix, especially the 2nd Renaissance, it gives some back story on how the machines think/behave. The machines aren't looking for a fight, and I doubt they really harbor prejudices like humans do. If man had given the machines any options they wouldn't have destroy us. But we attacked first and would not settle for peace. So they wiped us out. That was our fault.

You can leave the Matrix but you have to "believe". It's very analogous to religion, heaven and hell and all that. If you have faith you will be saved.

"Why would the machines stop? When they could just kill everyone?" They don't want to. They're logical beings. They'd rather not waste the time and energy and resources destroying Zion. There's good that can come of a man/machine alliance. They'd rather be friends than enemies. And if you think about it, the Matrix will always exist. I doubt they'll ever take it down. It's too useful of a tool. As long as there's a choice then it's not a prison.

I thought the ending was the only way that the movie could go and not be lame as hell. There's no way that the humans could have won. Yeah they could have fended off the machines attacking Zion, but more would have come, more than they could ever have beaten. Zion would eventually fall. And if Neo had just destroyed the machines then I don't think it would have ended with as many possibilities as it did. The truce and the death of Neo and all that it leaves open allow for a much more philosophical ending than would have been if Neo had just kicked the machines asses.

So if you wanted the Independence Day ending then yeah it probably was disappointing, and I'll admit that it still would have been a cool finish, but I can see why they went with the "deeper" ending.

11-14-2003, 08:38 AM	#319 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	They wouldn't want to free everyone in the Matrix, because the majority of the people don't want to be freed. They're happy right were they are. The point is that if anyone figures out that the Matrix isn't real and wants out then they're free to leave. Also the machines are supposed to leave Zion alone. I would be more worried about the people in Zion having a grudge against the machines and ending the cease fire than the machines starting something. Watch the Animatrix, especially the 2nd Renaissance, it gives some back story on how the machines think/behave. The machines aren't looking for a fight, and I doubt they really harbor prejudices like humans do. If man had given the machines any options they wouldn't have destroy us. But we attacked first and would not settle for peace. So they wiped us out. That was our fault. You can leave the Matrix but you have to "believe". It's very analogous to religion, heaven and hell and all that. If you have faith you will be saved. "Why would the machines stop? When they could just kill everyone?" They don't want to. They're logical beings. They'd rather not waste the time and energy and resources destroying Zion. There's good that can come of a man/machine alliance. They'd rather be friends than enemies. And if you think about it, the Matrix will always exist. I doubt they'll ever take it down. It's too useful of a tool. As long as there's a choice then it's not a prison. I thought the ending was the only way that the movie could go and not be lame as hell. There's no way that the humans could have won. Yeah they could have fended off the machines attacking Zion, but more would have come, more than they could ever have beaten. Zion would eventually fall. And if Neo had just destroyed the machines then I don't think it would have ended with as many possibilities as it did. The truce and the death of Neo and all that it leaves open allow for a much more philosophical ending than would have been if Neo had just kicked the machines asses. So if you wanted the Independence Day ending then yeah it probably was disappointing, and I'll admit that it still would have been a cool finish, but I can see why they went with the "deeper" ending. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore. Last edited by Moobie; 11-14-2003 at 08:41 AM..