Meembo, I'm pretty sure that I never said God does not exist. Maybe you should read what I posted again.
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Originally posted by Nazggul
I don't believe or disbelieve. I don't know and I have a pretty good idea that nobody else does either.
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I was pointing out the problem that I see with Lolita's argument...
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Originally posted by Nazggul
Lolita, what you are saying boils down to:
Faith = God because you have Faith. (what you call the truth in your heart that you cannot deny)
This is the same as God exists because you believe he exists.
Most young children believe in Santa Claus. They know it in their hearts that he exists...but he doesn't.
Religion relies on Faith because there is nothing else. Religion uses emotion over substance.
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...which is what she asked for.
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Originally posted by lolita
oh gees im dissaponited vy the responses i got, im looking for some real debate not discussion about chopsticks. You have all mocked my theory yet none of you have reason to - none of you have any idea of what i have experienced in christianity. Its like this people- if something feels good we do it right? one example of this that MAY get you people talking is that people have sex without the ultimate goal of reproduction, just fror pleasure. Yet we have how many unwanted pregnancies - what this says is 2 things. 1) we cannot control nature [ even with the pill nature can still win] and 2) people are considered 'stupid' as i have been portrayed for doing/believeing in something purely because of how it feels - YET WHEN IT COMES TO SEX OOOOOHHHHHH WWWWEEEE YES GREAT - YES LOGICAL ETC ETC. in case you didnt realise i am annoyed and i want some REAL responses not jokes - i want real opinion. Thank u !!!! LOLITA!!!!
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Dismissing that as Sophomoric, Brutish, Cynical, and careless is, well...petty.
This appears to me that you are letting your own emotions cloud your argument. Also, throughout history there are fewer religions that depict God as all the things you describe. Most of the oldest religions imagined their God, or Gods, as vengeful, spiteful, and taking pleasure in the torment their human puppets. It is only through your own hopes and beliefs that you see (only) the good things in the world as the presence of a God. Let's just ignore all that bad stuff for this argument since it doesn't support your point.
Let’s just replace Santa Claus with the Boogie man. My argument stands. Because we believe he exists, does not mean that he does.