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pocon1 · 11-12-2003, 06:22 PM

While I'm not disagreeing with plan9, I think he is trying to read too deep into the results. Cardio for cardio's sake is a sustained heart rate level, which in the course of a basketball game is often not kept elevated enough. Now, if you are playing without subs and playing pickup, you may keep your hr high enough. But college athletes and other teams are often subbing in and out and they have some downtime. Practices of course can have much levels cardio, depending on what regimen is being utilized.
For burning calories, what you have to look at is how many are burned during exercise, and secondarily afer exercise. Yes, hiit does increase the calorie burn after exercise, but not as much as a good bout of strength training. Strength training also keeps your metabolism cooking for hours. 30 or 40 minutes of sustained aerobic exertion at a reasonably high level will burn more calories than twenty minutes of hiit. Just consider how far you can run for a good 30-40 minutes compared to a hiit 20 minute routine. calories burned is simply a measurement of energy expended, and energy expended is your bodyweight, your metabolic rate, and your distance travelled. Time is not a factor when measuring total calories burned. Time is a factor for how quickly you burn the calories and you heart rate level.
So anyway, the point is that you need to consider your goals. If you want to burn calories very quickly and train your body to deal with very high levels of lactic acid and have some cardio benefit and save time, then by all means use hiit workouts.
If you want a slightly greater cardio benefit, some more calories burned and don't mind a longer workout with less pain, use longersustained cardio exercise. Or, get the best of both worlds by varying your routine. Do 1 or 2 days of hiit, and 2 days of sustained cardio.
Oh, as far as fat loss vs calorie loss, Slightly more fat is burned when using low intensity cardio. The higher the exertion level, the more glycogen is consumed. At rest, the ratio is about 50% glycogen, 50% fat. At maximal exertion, energy is 100% glycogen. It is a sliding scale from there. So yes, long slow workouts do burn a higher proportion of fat calories, but your metabolic rate during exercise is so slow that it is not worth it. For weight loss, the overriding factor is total calories consumed. 500 calories of carbs burned off is better than 250 calories of fat burned off. In the end, you will be better off by burning more calories.

11-12-2003, 06:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
pocon1 Banned	While I'm not disagreeing with plan9, I think he is trying to read too deep into the results. Cardio for cardio's sake is a sustained heart rate level, which in the course of a basketball game is often not kept elevated enough. Now, if you are playing without subs and playing pickup, you may keep your hr high enough. But college athletes and other teams are often subbing in and out and they have some downtime. Practices of course can have much levels cardio, depending on what regimen is being utilized. For burning calories, what you have to look at is how many are burned during exercise, and secondarily afer exercise. Yes, hiit does increase the calorie burn after exercise, but not as much as a good bout of strength training. Strength training also keeps your metabolism cooking for hours. 30 or 40 minutes of sustained aerobic exertion at a reasonably high level will burn more calories than twenty minutes of hiit. Just consider how far you can run for a good 30-40 minutes compared to a hiit 20 minute routine. calories burned is simply a measurement of energy expended, and energy expended is your bodyweight, your metabolic rate, and your distance travelled. Time is not a factor when measuring total calories burned. Time is a factor for how quickly you burn the calories and you heart rate level. So anyway, the point is that you need to consider your goals. If you want to burn calories very quickly and train your body to deal with very high levels of lactic acid and have some cardio benefit and save time, then by all means use hiit workouts. If you want a slightly greater cardio benefit, some more calories burned and don't mind a longer workout with less pain, use longersustained cardio exercise. Or, get the best of both worlds by varying your routine. Do 1 or 2 days of hiit, and 2 days of sustained cardio. Oh, as far as fat loss vs calorie loss, Slightly more fat is burned when using low intensity cardio. The higher the exertion level, the more glycogen is consumed. At rest, the ratio is about 50% glycogen, 50% fat. At maximal exertion, energy is 100% glycogen. It is a sliding scale from there. So yes, long slow workouts do burn a higher proportion of fat calories, but your metabolic rate during exercise is so slow that it is not worth it. For weight loss, the overriding factor is total calories consumed. 500 calories of carbs burned off is better than 250 calories of fat burned off. In the end, you will be better off by burning more calories.