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Old 11-09-2003, 06:16 PM   #261 (permalink)
Lasereth
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Originally posted by CSflim
I don't get it

I don't get it. Why did everyone hate revolutions so much? Not trying to say you're not entitled to your opinion, just wondering what you thought was so awful about it.
Pretty much all of the posts here just keep reiterating how much it sucked, without giving any reasons.
The only things that seems to be the problem is that it didn't wrap everything up into a nice tidy package. Is that REALLY so important to you?
Yes revolutions did leave many things open to interpretation/further exploration, but is that really such a terrible sin? Is a movie that doesn't unambigously answer everything automatically worthless?

The other thing which keeps coming up is how many inconsistencies in the plot there are. But (and I know you're going to hate me for saying this, but i must) pretty much all of the claims of plot holes, simply highlight, not a bad film, but a lack of understanding.

Now I will conceed to some of them. Most notably, the complete and utter lack of emergency EMP deffence systems in zion. That one completly baffled me.

I can understand how this might lessen your opinion of the movie to some extent, but it doesn't explain the sheer ANGER that so many of you are expressing.

So, why did you hate revolutions so much?

Again I must reiterate, that I'm not challeneging your opinion, just curious.
Nailed it on the head. There were very, very few plotholes in Revolutions, and an overwhelming majority of the questions posed in Reloaded ARE answered in Revolutions.

It's down to the fact that the new fad is dissing Revolutions and saying the first one was an absolute milestone.

I honestly don't see how people can say "it sucks" without giving concrete reasons. All of the major plotholes mentioned are false. Smith isn't an Agent anymore. Neo chose the right-hand door in Reloaded, not the left-hand, explaining why the 23-people-to-save-Zion idea is thrown out the window.

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Originally posted by MangaMonkey
Hi,
I am sorry but seeing this movie just proved to me that the Wachowski brothers really had nothing revolutionary to say beyond the first amazing movie. They just ended up convincing me that they truly were a one-hit-wonder and that they just kept on spewing thinly veiled religious and philosophical bullshit to try to mesmerize people like they did with the original. But, then again, if they did anything else, it wouldn't be the Matrix, would it? They really bit themselves in the ass with this one, and it really all comes down to making money. The first movie was so innovative and original that it would be almost impossible to truly improve on it. In a way, they did all they could, but making sequels wasn't a good idea to begin with. The first movie was not made for the money but for the sake of telling an amazing story and making a revolutionary movie. These two movies were made to make money and to try to keep running with a story that should've ended with The Matrix. Too bad, as I didn't think Reloaded was bad, and I thought maybe Revolutions would live up to it's name and be Revolutionary. Oh, and one last thing, I can't believe how the Wachowski brothers copped out and used so many clichés, one-liners and cheesy gimmicks! I thought they were above that. Honestly, Revolutions was perhaps the most clichéd movie ever, using the tough but endearing drill sergeant, the "Last Man Standing" bit, the heroic citizens bit, the "Everyone-Dies-But-The-Main-Characters-Who-Survive-Long-Enough-To-Win-The-Day" bit, the fact that people survive long enough to tell their life story, and the list goes on. And what was with Morpheus in this one, anyways? He's been relegated from a badass dude to Will Smith's wife's bitch.
Thanks,
Manga
How can you idolize the first one and talk about how cheesy and cliched Revolutions was? Have you seen the first Matrix yet? That movie was the epitome of cliches and one-liners. "Buckle your seat Dorothy, because Kansas...is going bye-bye." Give me a break! "It's our way or the highway." Do I need to go on?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but opinions can be wrong if they're based on plot information that isn't correct. I don't know how many critics I've seen say Revolutions sucks simply because they based it on wrong plot information. In this case, it can be said that many critics hated Revolutions because they didn't understand it.

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