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Old 11-06-2003, 12:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus
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Originally posted by eple
Hihihihi, islamofacsists....

seriously, this thread is getting way too angry. It is an important issue guys, but there is no need to go apeshit and start throwing insults and accustations all over the place. Maybe we should have our own rant thread, where the really angry posts can be posted or moved to?
Not a bad idea. The problem is we'll all end up there and we'll keep asking for more and more rant threads. Then we'll need a TFP Rant Board. Then a whole Rant Project. Our anger and hatred will destroy us all like the cancerous monster that it is. AHHH! I hate you Eple! And the Norwegian horse you rode in on!

Sorry...

Back on topic:

I don't mind criticism of the Iraq war. I encourage it if it is constructive. The problem that I see is that it is rarely constructive. I just don't see us all working together to make things better on our troops and better for Iraq. Whether or not anybody supported the war, we have a duty and an opporunity to help a nation. It appears to me that the duty of the media has been to show everyone how horrible war is and post-war is. This is fine. This is necessary. But the media's duty is to also show what we are doing to help Iraq as well. The problem stems from partisanship in general over the issue. It would seem democrat hardliners don't want to see any success in Iraq because that will somehow = success for Bush. The Republican hardliners don't want to see any criticism at all because they think that it will = criticism for Bush. And this is increasingly made worse with each day ticking down to election '04. Meanwhile we've got troops dying and Iraqi's slowly warming up to us. Rebuilding Iraq should not be used either as a politcal platform for any party, but sadly it is. This isn't in anyone's best interest. I try to maintain that Iraq could be going much better, but any type of criticism that is just calling it a failure, is extremely counterproductive. It is an ongoing process. I still don't understand how people ever got the impression that we were going to have a smooth ride with this. I fully expected the rebuilding process to go on for the next five years, long before the first bullets flew. Its fine to be anti-war, but the war has happened, its time to be pro-rebuilding, so we can make the best out of whatever it is we have gotten into.
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