Kyo

Cause is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if God 'causes' anything - you'll notice I explicitly say that God doesn't have to do anything to remove our free will.

This sounds snobbish, perhaps, but I really don't see what is so hard to understand. If you flip a coin, but already know how it's going to land, it might as well be a one-sided coin - it won't, absolutely, 100% will not land the other way. There is no chance, no way, no how - because you already know what is going to happen. If it did go the other way, then you didn't really know - and we're assuming that God does.

The soothsayer knew Caesar was going to die, therefore Caesar has no choice but to die. He has to die, there is no other possible outcome. And not only does he have to die, but he has to die in the exact manner, at the exact time, etc.

If you know that something is going to happen, obviously it will happen. Where is the 'choice' in that? Choice has become just a meaningless word. Sure, we 'made a choice' - nobody is explicitly 'forcing' us to do anything - but really, since somebody already knows what we are going to do, we have no choice at all.

This is simple guys ... the discussion should have been over a week ago.

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