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Old 11-05-2003, 06:47 PM   #49 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad
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Originally posted by Zeld2.0
Hey i have no problem taking out fanatics but wanting to kill all of them is only proving their point that you are the terrorist.

The worst thing IMO you can do is turn yourself into 'one of them' - then whose the better one now? Why not wipe out all Americans because there are a few who bomb others?

Either way this is pointless to argue because if a perception and viewpoint is someone elses, he's not going to be convinced unless its by himself.

No, killing the ones that are arming and planing to kill us. Those are the enemy. And at the same time, taking the fuel out of their fire by making Afganistan and IRaq successful, free, and good places to live. No one will want to take arms against America when they are working a good job, eating good food and watching some decent playboy channel. A well satisfied person doest not commit atrocities. We have to show the fanatics that the real reason their lives are shit, is their leaders. The ones that dont teach real information is the Madrasas, only chanting and misinformation. The same leaders that are halting progress, stealing money and forcing their populations to live in squalor while they have billions in bank accounts.
So ending this is two fold, war against the ones that wish to fight, till they realise that fighting is usless ( and that isnt going to happen when they hear the liberals badmouthing the conservatives that wish to take the fight to terrorists homes, Liberal talk is only showing Al Queda that Americans dont have the resolve to keep up the fight, and so it encourages them) and when the people see, in their livetimes and neighborhood that AMerica has improved their lot in life.
I am sure there were a lot of pissed of Japanese after ww2, but how many still hate America now? We waged a solid war there, pulled no punches, and then rebuilt the nation into a stable, safe place to live. A comfortable life puts out a lot of rage.

This to me is my biggest problem with the Bush administration. I feel they abandoned Afganistan instead of making that place a decent home to raise a family. Had that happened, when Al Queda came to recruit, they would be hard pressed to find a guy willing to strap on a bomb.

And with talk of pulling out of Iraq, will only bite us in the ass harder and longer in the long run. This is why i think that all the European nations that balked at helping or offering funds are scummy. They are letting their petty jealousy of the US pepper their long range vision. They say they want a peaceful world, then chip in and make it so. Jealously, and divisive talk wont make the world better, a peaceful world takes work. If you want it, do something for it.
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