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Old 11-05-2003, 11:30 AM   #148 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Derwood
While you are entitled to your opinion (and share those opinions with others on this board), perhaps you should reserve judgment until after you see Revolutions? Reloaded is only 1/2 of a movie, and perhaps those elements of Reloaded that seem cheesy/stupid/superflous will be explained/justified in Revolutions.
Its probably been said a billion times, but good film-makers would make Revolutions stand on its own two feet, no questions asked. If a movie needs a sequel to be good, I truly believe that that signals there to be a lack of skill. And I'm not passing judgement on Revolutions, I merely summed up a few disheartening reviews I read. And I only read these reviews because I have really low expectations for Revolutions as it is, so I was seeing if some reviews could raise them and get me to want to see the movie.

And I still stand by my point, Lasereth, about some of those scenes being unneccesary. What would go underexplained if that fight with the asian guy was edited out? Or if the big fight with Agent Smith didn't happen? Or if Persephone didn't ask Neo to kiss her? As far as I can see, the plot (as well as the main characters) would be totally unaffected. As I said before, if these scenes serve some higher purpose than to advance plot, then good film-makers would make these scenes not deviate from the plot so much, would incorporate them better.

Furthermore, you mention that the fight with the asian dude shows that the Oracle is protected, that people need to prove themselves to visit the oracle, and that people need to fight this guy in order to do that. But it begs the question: why does the audience care? Why do we care if the Oracle is protected? Or if they have to fight this guy to see her? It just seems like an excuse for some Kung Fu. I think a similar argument can be made for the other scenes you brought up, as well.

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As for the Keymaker and Architect being named juvenile aliases, what else can you call two computer programs? Would it be better if they were named "BEFR(***XXMM)2045?" They have a name in the real world, as do all of the programs.
I respectfully disagree with this on a couple of levels. First, before the Keymaker and the Architect are computer programs, they're characters in a movie. Having characters with these names, for whatever reason, is hamfisted and preachy. Also, computer programs (especially ones that take human form) can have normal names. "Agent Smith" for example. I think its a great name. And now I see in Revolutions that there's "The Trainman."
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