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Old 11-04-2003, 05:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
filtherton
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Originally posted by Ustwo
The 'public' would benefit from my bank account, do you think it should be confiscated?
Yes, give me all your money.
How would it be for the greater good, in capitalist free market america, for the government to start confiscating random bank accounts? How would that be for the public good?


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The lease they could have had was for 5 years. If after 2 years the government leaves and they can find no one to lease the property will the government compensate them for the loss of income?
Well, since we aren't in a position to know what the lease says, i think it is a bit premature for us to speculate whether the owner would get compensation for lease breakage.


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Again what RIGHT does anyone have over your property? If 51% of the people decide the other 49% should be slaves for the public good, it does not make it right.
You seem to be confusing the issues. Maybe you think that you live in a country where you have the absolute right to your property, but clearly that country is not america. In fact, if a constitutional amendment passed specifically stating that you have no right to wear pants, well, you'd be wearing shorts or chaps for the rest of your life.

Furthermore, what RIGHT do YOU have over your property? Well, you only have as many rights as the constitution allows and i haven't read it in a while, but i'm not sure it mentions eminent domain. Or strip malls and courthouses.


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No kidding the 'make the rules' and they abuse it too. There is no bubble to burst here, I am well aware of the power of government and its something which should be limited. There was NO critical use of this land by the government but they wanted it.
I'm pretty sure that saving money in this day and age of deficit spending would qualify as a critical use. Why wouldn't it?

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Legally they COULD have claimed ownership, does this make it right? I don't care if its Kings, Premiers, Khans, Presidents, or 'the people'. Tyranny is tyranny.
So they could have taken away all of this guys things, and yet all they did was force some strip mall owner to let them lease the space? Sounds pretty abusive to me. What next, reserved parking?

You're making a mountain out of an anthill.
First of all, how can you possibly label the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors big government? They're like a step bigger than the school board.
Second, calling "the people" tyrants over a forced lease seems a bit dramatic.
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