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DeviouslySimple · 11-04-2003, 04:17 PM

Basically I'm 6'3", 193 pounds and was about a month ago at 18% bodyfat (I think that figure was at least partially inaccurate).

My other muscles are definitely starting to show definition - far more than 5 months ago when I started working out, from 220 pounds, and in general it's getting to a point where I can say "hey I am looking respectably decent now".

However, while I actually don't have much to go in terms of improvement to a "flat" stomach, I want something that looks more like my bicep - in other words some six-pack action or at least something a lot more sculpted.

I did crunches and I have a friend who did crunches for awhile, he had a flat stomach but it was never really toned all that much. I have read and sometimes look at http://www.bestabs.com/ but lately, I am hitting up this machine called the Ab2000 and it seems to both hurt more (in the right way) and work more than any of the decline/bench/regular/weighted crunches that I've tried thus far.

Any personal, more specific or neat things to check out? By the way are the obliques something that you have to train outside of the whole ab area or do they start getting in line after a certain point?

Last thing is whether I should or have to burn a lot more fat before I start seeing effects happen around the stomach, or should I just start doing more/different ab stuff? As I mentioned, I was working out for 5 months, but only seriously started doing some ab stuff about the last two weeks. Thanks!

11-04-2003, 04:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
DeviouslySimple Upright Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma	Abs questions: Basically I'm 6'3", 193 pounds and was about a month ago at 18% bodyfat (I think that figure was at least partially inaccurate). My other muscles are definitely starting to show definition - far more than 5 months ago when I started working out, from 220 pounds, and in general it's getting to a point where I can say "hey I am looking respectably decent now". However, while I actually don't have much to go in terms of improvement to a "flat" stomach, I want something that looks more like my bicep - in other words some six-pack action or at least something a lot more sculpted. I did crunches and I have a friend who did crunches for awhile, he had a flat stomach but it was never really toned all that much. I have read and sometimes look at http://www.bestabs.com/ but lately, I am hitting up this machine called the Ab2000 and it seems to both hurt more (in the right way) and work more than any of the decline/bench/regular/weighted crunches that I've tried thus far. Any personal, more specific or neat things to check out? By the way are the obliques something that you have to train outside of the whole ab area or do they start getting in line after a certain point? Last thing is whether I should or have to burn a lot more fat before I start seeing effects happen around the stomach, or should I just start doing more/different ab stuff? As I mentioned, I was working out for 5 months, but only seriously started doing some ab stuff about the last two weeks. Thanks!