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Old 11-04-2003, 02:23 PM   #51 (permalink)
eple
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I'd like to see the United States pull out every single soldier from every country that we have our fingers in. Not that it would help -- we would then be seen as greedy isolationists that threaten world peace by not involving ourselves in every two-bit country's conflict. The US cannot win a propaganda war that is this idiotic.
Naw it would be cool. Really, go ahead. Seriously, only Americans believe that whole manifest destiny thingie anyways.

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As for Israel, I agree -- if the Jews would just shut up and let themselves be massacred, again, they wouldn't need to fight against terrorist groups. Lack of fighting is the same thing as peace, right?
Wow, that sharp wit just blew all argumentation away. Maybe there are no good guys or bad guys here, just a buch of wankers not able to get along. I read something interesting yesterday. According to some smarty literate fella in the paper, there are two classical types of endings to a conflict. There is the Shakesperian way, where different points of view crash, and only one is left victorious. Then there is the Tchekovian way, where nobody wins and both sides are left disillutioned but at peace. Hopefully, the Shakesperian way will not be executed, as that would require genocide of some sort, so in the end, all the wackos will need to put their destructive fantasies of total control over Israel aside, and just start living together. Building a wall through Israel to "block any terrorists form entering", is not the way. Neither is, of course, killing people be it with apache helicopters or with dynamite strapped on your body. Now, if you follow me, I am not supporting palestinian goals of chasing all Israelis away from their homeland, but I believe Israel needs to be controlled, and stopped from making this worse. Both sides must cooperate to stop the violence and the terror, and both sides must treat each other with respect. If you ask me, killing Sharon would be the best step you could take towards peace. He is a mad fucker. Arafat has so much less power, so I don't really see the need of whacking him (he is dying anyway).
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