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Old 11-04-2003, 01:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
MuadDib
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Comrade, You have no right to what I have, I'm sorry. You did nothing for it. If taxes arn't enough for you, tough.
Well, capitalist pig-dog, I might not personally have any claim to what you have, but society at large and community do. You are dependent on them for the stuff you have and, in need, you have to give back. Thankfully, taxes are generally enough but in some cases they are not and then the logic to taxation applies to other property

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Two things here. First off no one said they have no obligation to society, but taking a store is like saying you have to sell milk to the government or work in its factories. Its a form of serfdom. Secondly, there is this thing called the economy, and guess what, kids gaps are just as important as courthouses. Its arrogance to assume that government is the pinnacle of human endeavors.
In reply to your two things:
1) You are saying that there is no obligation. The city had a lease and they want it extended. It costs the taxpayers money to up and move the courthouse and get a new place for it. Not to mention that you just assume that they could have gotten a longer lease. Many places have a maximum lease to allow for review. BTW if the government needs your milk or your labor you better give it... that sort of thing is the only reason we remained a coherent country after the Great Depression and WWII... because people realized we are in this together and were willing to put petty self-interest aside.
2) This thing called the economy is less effected by the loss of a Kids Gap than a courthouse. It is stupidity to assume that capitalist economics are a great acheivement than institutes of social justice.

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There were other vacant properties, the government could have moved the courthouse, they didn't want to. Its not like it was either put the courthouse HERE or there won't be a courthouse at all. The government had a 5 year lease, if they wanted it longer they should have had a longer lease. Instead they decided they don't have to play by the rules that everyone else does, which is typical government behavior.
As I said before the other vacant properties cost money to buy and move to. The lease should be extended for ease of court access and because if they moved it would pry cause a tax hike and then the selfish would complain about that too. His minor dip in one lot of a strip mall is insignificant as long as he gets paid for its use and is not in hurt because of it.
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