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Originally posted by Nefir
Thats just sad. But they are in Europe, so I can't really blame them for being so grotesquely misinformed. Its the Americans I am worried about. I keep hearing from native-born Americans about how much they hate America, and are embarassed to be American, and think its an oppressive and hostile nation... well, I got news for ya, "Yank". You have to be pretty damn spoiled to think that America and Israel are the bad guys.
I was born in Soviet Russia. And in Soviet Russia, .. weh, I'm not doing the Smirnoff thing anymore. Its funny how people who have lived all their lives in the friendly, generous, and protective yolk of American society have the nerve to not only take their lives for granted, but also dump the country that made it all possible into the same category as assorted dictators.
America is the only nation in the world with the guts to get out there and do things. Sure, some times mistakes are made instead of plans, but if the only alternative is to sit on our fattening asses and do nothing, then I'd rather move to Australia. At least the view is nicer. But thats not how America works. It is a leader, not a follower. America makes things happen - yes, some times it disturbs those comfortable holes in the sand people buried their heads into, and it makes them upset, but those people have never seen the alternative.
If it wasn't for America, billions of people, myself included, would be DEAD or OPPRESSED. I owe my life and my freedom to this country, and I am not going to let people talk trash about one of the few (and the strongest) bastions of democracy in the world without putting them through some hands-on case studies in oppression. Off to the gulag with yas 
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Surely some of your case studies would refer to america's treatment of native americans, perhaps our occupation of the phillipines, slavery, segregation, etc.
America is an aggressive country, and with a new policy of preemptive action seems to potentially be a huge threat to world peace. What is wrong with pointing that out? Maybe you misunderstand what it means to be american, but criticism and prodding is a vital part of any democracy. We even have a constitution protecting our rights to do so, apparently, our founding fathers thought that right was really important.
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Originally posted by Liquor Dealer
What Nefir said! And I'll raise you whatever! If the rest of the damned world is so great why do some of you keep hangin' out here?
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So your saying america is perfect? No criticism is properly placed when refering to america? It's great that we have the right to be openly critical of america, but on the other hand, actually using that right makes someone a fool?
I'm sorry, but i can criticise america all i want and still want to live here. This "love it or leave it" attitude is sorely lacking of any kind of courage or thought. What if our founding fathers had just "left it"? Maybe we'd all be better of if MLK had just "left it".
Fuck that. I know america is a damn fine place to live, but you're really deluding yourself if you think it is above criticism and beyond improvement. If i want to denounce our foreign policy who the hell is anybody to tell me to leave?