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Old 10-31-2003, 07:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Liquor Dealer
The point of the whole thing is that while none of the so-called "misconceptions "has been proved - neither have they been disproved.
disproved?! They were asking about the status right now.

* Evidence of links between Iraq and al-Qaeda has been found.

none have been found, thats a Fact! perhaps you find a link someday (I doubt it) but currently you haven't found any links. But still people belive that a link was found, thats false.

* Weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq.

none have been found, thats a Fact! perhaps you find some weapons (I doubt it) but currently you haven't found any WMD. Still people (reps and fox watchers) also belive that those Weapons have been found thats also false!

* World public opinion favored the United States going to war with Iraq.

thats also a fact.

So what kind of "disproves" are you talking about?

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Originally posted by Ustwo
The major flaw though is the only misconceptions they looked at were the PRO war misconceptions.

They didn't ask questions like: Were UN sanctions starving Iraqi Children? or Did US warplanes target civilians?
the difference between the point you mentioned and the questions asked in the survey is that the survey asked clear yes/no questions.

*Were UN sanctions starving Iraqi Children?
not the sanctions but saddam did this, but it is unquestionable that sanctions hit the civillian population first. some medical supplies could not been sold to iraq due to "dual use". that certainly had a huge effect on the population.

* Did US warplanes target civilians?
this quetion is also not easy to answer with a yes or a no. Do you talk about intentionally targeted? that would be certainly "No" (i hope) but civillians were targeted accidently and civilian areas have been hit by bombs.

So your questions would produce no good result
Plus like someone already said
"Don't like the point of the argument? Can't refute the facts? Hey! Just change the subject, or throw dirt on the person presenting."

nice try...
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