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Old 10-30-2003, 01:50 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Second, you dont like Couter and co cause they have no crediblity. I assume they have no crediblity cause they lied. But Moore has crediblity EVEN THOUGH, and despite the fact that he lies. So again, what is your point? It must be nice to be a hypocrite.
Well, i never said that i don't like coulter, in fact if you could look through the venomous tint on your sunglasses of interpretation you would see that i said:
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If i hear coulter or limbaugh, or even hitler say something that makes sense to me, and seems relatively credible then i will consider it, ponder what it means in relation to what i believe.
I was essentially trying to say that credibilty is in the eye of the beholder. Even though i know that coulter has an axe to grind, just like everybody else who has any kind of voice in the media, if she says something that seems credible, and also seems to make sense, i will think about it.


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So let me understand what you are saying, you want me to say the real journalists and psycologists that talked about mental illness, alienation, and Nazi fetishes, like I did. Then you falsly claimed " like the ones that say rock and roll music" and get called on it? What is your point?
What i am refering to, falsely according to you, was that there were a lot of differing opinions on why the columbine shooters did what they did. You're trying to claim that mm isn't credible because he didn't address what all the "real journalists and psychologists" said was the motivation of the shooters. I was trying to point out that there hasn't really been a consensus as to what caused the shooters to snap. It depends on who you ask. The gun control groups think it was easy access to guns, tipper gore thinks it was marilyn manson, jocks think that it was because they were a bunch of faggots. It depends on who you ask, contrary to what you may think, not all psychologist and journalists agree with eachother on everything.

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Evidence against me? The only thing Moore supporters have said was" Yes, He lies, but I like him anyway," While at the other side of their mouths they say" Coulter and Co, lie and they are hypocirites ( at best)."
What i am saying is yes, he may lie, but he also brings up valid points and unlike you, i can't try to speak on behalf of all mm supporters or liberals. You might look a few posts above this one where i said a very similar statement about coulter. i.e. I don't trust her but i won't discount everything she says just because i don't trust her.

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Not one person has, Moore Fan or not, has said that he DID not lie. What I am seeing is that if you are liberal, you dont care if he lies, as long as he bases Bush.
Maybe you should attempt to see people as more than just mouthpieces for the "liberal agenda" maybe you should try to look at people like you at least think that they can form their own ideas and perspectives. It is pretty fucking lazy to just write someone off as a liberal just because they don't agree with you. As far as i can tell not one person arguing for mm has tried to write off your opposition to him as a function of your conservative ideals.

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Nice evasion on two direct questions. I asked if he was right to make a buck ON THE FAMILIES OF COLUMBINE, not wether he could make movies.
Isn't making money of the suffering of others the american way? How would the medical and the funeral industries even exist if it was unethical to profit from suffering, much less your local evening news? How unpatriotic, and frankly liberal , of you to question how he makes his money?
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