Thread: CSflim's Wager
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Old 10-29-2003, 11:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: CSflim's Wager

i have a few questions concerning your assumtions - some of them are purely devil's advocate, some aren't.

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Originally posted by CSflim
Now, in addition to our proposal for the existence of God, we will also consider the afterlife, and the existence of Heaven and Hell. God will allow into heaven, those people whom he finds congenial, and will cast into Hell, those whom he dislikes. Obviously, as part of belief system, we want to aim for Heaven.
why do you choose these criteria? i maintain that there may be other criteria - for example, according to the Bible, all you need is to believe in and confess Jesus and get baptized, and the grace of God will get you there. conversely, buddhism says (i believe, please correct me if i'm wrong) that the path to heaven is enlightenment. in order to continue with this line, you should clear up this assumption.

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Originally posted by CSflim
Now, looking around the universe, we see very little, to no evidence of the existence of God, in fact, quite the opposite. It seems almost that God, if he exists, is being purposely elusive.
this also requires discussion - who says there is no evidence? many people will say that our very existance is proof in itself. additionally, some will say that the fact that the fact that life moved from less to more complex in direct (apparent) violation of the second law of thermodynamics is further proof.


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Originally posted by CSflim
The conclusions to be drawn from this are that God doesn’t want you to believe in him. Perhaps he would find it arrogant of a mere mortal to claim that he can even begin to fathom the power of God. Believers are obviously not what God wants, and as such, he will cast them into the fiery pits of Hell!
if the assumption is false, so is this, and honestly, throws your entire argument out. in addition, what if god made up this grand puzzle, and only wants those folks who can "solve" the puzzle in heaven? this last argument is making several assumptions about god that have no basis.

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Originally posted by CSflim
So from this, we can conclude, that without the need for further evidence...
but no evidence was provided.

i am on the edge of my seat awaiting further clarification. i'll try not to fall completely off, but no promises.
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