Sorry, I didn't notice that you actually gave a "proof." I guess I was stuck on yoru first paragraph...
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Originally posted by Kyo
One 'proof' I hear a lot is this: The universe came from somewhere, something. If we assume that conservation of energy holds, then all matter and energy currently in the universe has existed, in one form or another, since the beginning of time - we cannot obtain a universe from nothing. Where did all matter and energy originate from? If you claim the big bang, where did that originate from? We continue in a similar fashion until we reach a 'beginning' - at this point, we must show the original creation of all energy.
What do you think of that?
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Anyway, that's no proof! I mean, you say that "we cannot obtain a universe from nothing."
First, why not? I mean, why must everything have a beginning and an end? Is it so inconceivable that the universe was always here and always will be? Must you model everything after yourself, from your birth (beginning) to your death (end)?
Secondly, God created the universe. This doesn't help! Where did God come from? He's eternal? Why couldnt' the universe be that?
I don't think this is the Christian argument for God. I don't think Christians need an argument for God, this being their
faith and all, but some seem to have one none the less!