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Originally posted by ARTelevision
Your offer was to deliver them in context. You haven't done that.
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Actually, he had. Each quote had the context explained to you. Now, you may refute the truth of his purported contexts but that's a different issue.
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Originally posted by ARTelevision
I'll tell you what though. I do not like the kind of slurs he dishes out toward ethnic groups at all.
I would just prefer to reserve the notion of "hate speech" for something more flagrant. There are examples of much more despicable public expression in history and in other societies currently.
And you know what I'm trying to do - just remind us all to get more of a handle on our rhetoric here.
Most contributors are doing fine.
Thanks.
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While I can understand the desire to reserve the term "hate speech" for truly hateful speach, it's not uncommon (or unwarranted) to use such "extreme" terms for things that are relatively extreme. I mean, maybe I'm just not "with it" but I haven't seen anything in public light that has been as hateful as Rush Limbaugh, especially in the US in recent times.
As for the level of rhetoric, please read on...
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Originally posted by ARTelevision
a_divine_martyr, guess what. You just earned a public warning from me. You don't get to pull down the level of dialog and decorum in this Forum just because you happen to own a keyboard.
There are times when I come in here for the express purpose of finding out who exactly is responsible for the lowering of standards of discussion. You just identified yourself as one of those members.
I'm not playing games. You try typing a response like that to a rational discussion again - you're gone. That's how simple things sometimes are.
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I must ask, where were you when all these
other threads degenerated into empty rhetoric bordering on flame wars? I've almost entirely abandoned the political forum 'cause of this and, here you are, complaining about, what seems to me to be, a minor infraction. All
a_divine_martyr said was "I call bullshit on that," which is just a rude way of saying "I call you up on that," meaning he's not willing to take your word for it (what we usually do) and to please elaborate with examples or evidence (at TFP, this means links to secondary opnions on the internet).
Now, I can understand if you don't read every thread (there's a lot of traffic here at TFP) but it seems weird to come down so hard without so much as a cursory look at what the community standard has become because what you are complaining about is way above the bar...