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Old 10-26-2003, 12:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
Killconey
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Originally posted by Tman144

God would actually leave me with no choice about killing you if I did it. Since he created everything, he knows that his first action of creation will lead up to me killing you. The chain of events leading up to me killing you would have already been predetermined as soon as time began. The only way to make it my choice is that God didn't know what I was going to do.

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This conflict goes back a lot further than most people realize. If God wanted to actively prevent you from killing me, he would need to: A, take away your free will or B, eliminate you from existance. If you think about time as an endless line where we are just a small dot, this could lead to infinite problems.

Suppose that you do kill me. That action would indeed be bad, but maybe you're going to have a son who will cure cancer. By eliminating you, God would have also eliminated the cure for cancer. Or perhaps my death will cause someone else to turn to God or to rethink the way they are living their life. By keeping me alive, God would have damned that person.

This is why I think that God does not take an active hand in the way we live our lives. I believe that time is a delicate thing, much like a game of Jenga, and if you remove one piece you are putting the entire structure at risk.

Interestingly enough, I do not believe that this limits God in any way, nor does it limit your free choice. You can choose to kill me or not kill me, but God just so happen's to know what you are going to choose and has already planned to compensate for that. Once again, its like in the Matrix where the Oracle knew what Neo was going to do but Neo still had to choose to do it.
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