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Originally posted by ARTelevision
I don't have an opinion about this yet.
I'm looking for more than a word or a sentence taken out of context.
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I contend that you expressed a strong opinion earlier when you said:
Probably what is being expressed is something closer to the fact that people who are on the other side of the polarities of political expression from him hate his ideas. And they make the common logical fallacy of arguing ad hominem (The person presenting an argument is attacked instead of the argument itself).
Also, in the same post where you started off saying "I don't have an opinion" you later expressed an opinion.
Everyone has an opinion. You appear to be coming at Rush from a position of support and sympathy. We all have preconceptions.
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The "evidence" presented here is sensationalized to the point of unreliability. The lack of contextual framing demonstrates the quickness with which people are ready to make ethical judgements of the deepest kind based on partial statements.
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In your opinion, perhaps. I have seen Rush on TV, I have heard his show, and I have read the quotes and articles posted so far. The article I posted earlier about his bullying tactics was, I feel, not sensationalized and not exaggerated. It was a summary of how Rush behaves on his show generally.
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What I'm objecting to is the level of discourse - it's emotional and not rational. No one gets convinced of anything in discussions of this sort. And the forum becomes a place where people simply type out their own rigid and inflexible conceptions of things.
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I feel you are taking much the same tactic. I have presented my opinon that Rush is a hater, that he is a bully, and that he contributes to increasing the amount of hate in the world. You are invalidating my opinion by saying that it doesn't measure up to your standards of context and evidence.
I feel like you are manipulating the context in which the argument is framed in order to support your pre-conceived opinion that Rush is not a proponent of hate. When a national talk show host calls a 13-year old girl ugly on his show and doesn't apologize for it, that is all the context that I need to conclude that he is a bully and a hater. Your standards may differ, but that in no way invalidates my opinion. You are creating an artificial standard of evidence that supports your world-view.
There is no such thing as an absolute, impartial way to judge whether a talk-show host is a hater.