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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
In the 1800's the world was treating people much worse. We have become a better place than it is now. That is why I am against Israel's treatment of Palastinians, and Saddam's treatment of his people. Had their been a nation like the US is now, and fought on indian rights, and won, the world would have been different. And its is a moot point as there was no such nation. The sad truth is only a few people cared about them at the time.
Why are you so mired in the past? My Romany family was slaughted by Germans. Do I hate them? Do I blame them? My uncle was killed in a concentration camp. My mother remembers him ( I dont obviously, he was dead before I was born). So I guess I should scream and talk about what if, or I should look at what his happening right now and say "People are getting killed in Iraq, and Saddam has the resouces to stymie the UN untill he is in a postion of powe to wage war on his terms, or we can stop it now with a minimum of loss to life."
THat is what I choose to do. I cant change the past, nor can you. But you can realise that we saved the most lives with our course of action in Iraq, but to do so you would have to drop your blind hatred of Bush, and some of you would rather hold on to hate than realse that we saved lives. Its rather sad.
As far as the terrorists part, I was talking about leaving the nation now, as the thread was talking about. If we leave now, Al Qaida would have a decent change to take over, or at least set up shop. So in that context, I talked about it in the 1800's. If I was not clear, i am sorry.
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Ok, one at a time:
1. Still dodging the original question. I asked how you'd feel about that possibility as that is what
the United States did to Iraq. You ran from the premise.
2. "Mired in the past"? Yeah, yesterday was a real iron clad bitch. Tomorrow looks like more of the same.
3. Germans.... Nuremberg.... Tell me, when was the last time a caucasian stood in the dock for killing an American native
or taking away their language, or ..... you've probably stopped reading already.
4. Wage war on his terms" The Republicans didn't seem bothered by this when the Iran / Iraq war was going on. What changed?
5. Saved whose lives? Not citizens of the United States. I worked with an Iraqi in the 80's, who's job it was
during the aforementioned conflict, to crawl into the desert at night with a one meter metal rod to find Iranian
land mines. His personal view? Vote against any and all Republicans he could find after getting citizenship.
6. Al Quida is not a governmental organization. They did not attempt a coup in the 'stan. They have not tried
to overthrow the Saud family. What G-2 do you possess that is not available to the CIA, NSA, DIA, etc, etc, etc?
2Wolves