If you just want something to carry a lot of music while jogging or biking or something, I think I'd go with the Iriver. Since it's memory based, it has no moving parts, and therefore is tougher than the IPod and less likely to become a paperweight if you drop it too many times. The built in radio tuner is nice too. If 17 straight hours of music just isn't enough for you then get the IPoD.
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