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But lets assume they didn't get the training, just for fun. Do you really think they didn't get the training budget because of Rumsfeld, or more likely because someone screwed up and they got out of it?
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In my above post you may notice that i didn't say anything about rumsfeld other than the fact that i didn't know if it could be linked to him. Clearly someone has fucked up.
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Boy, you are touchy, just because I see your agument differently they you do, doesn't mean I am wrong. I think the most important thing you said was According to their lawyer which I pointed out as questionable. The lawyer said they didn't get the right training, which in terms of debate means nothing. Now if it turns out they didn't get the training then we can talk about it, but debating the merits of a case based on the words of a defense lawyer is futile. Have you ever heard a lawyer say 'Its all my clients fault, I don't know what got into them.' or the like?
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It depends on how you look at it. I know we can't necessarily trust lawyers, but that doesn't mean they always lie. Half empty v. half full. Call me naive, but i don't have a hard time believing that these folks were undertrained.