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Originally posted by erion
Not at all. The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. The right to own military grade hardware is not. While in 1789 these were essentially one in the same, owning a modern handgun is not the same as owning an AR-15 or P90 or SAW.
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But its ok if I have a handgun on me?
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Yes, but remember that in Germany all Jews regardless of Nationality or place of birth were deemed non-citizens. How long before we see the naturalized citizens from unpopular countries grouped with non-citizens? How long before Natural born citizens of questionable descent join the group? How long before anyone who questions the actions of the powers-that-be are included? Passing legislation that enables a a group of people to be treated differently than others based on subjective criteria is a very slippery slope. This is my greatest fear.
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This is what you said...
The Patriot Act would shred essential parts of the U.S. Constitution in order to fight the "war on terror." . Ok, NOW you are saying you are afraid of something hypothetical that the patriot act itself can't do. Don't give me this 'slippery slope' stuff. You said the patriot act would SHRED the essential parts of the constitution, and NOW you are saying, that it might lead to new laws which do. No, the patriot act does what it does. If in the future someone says 'Everyone of Iranian birth has lost their citizenship' then I'll be first in line to denounce them. This is not the future of the patriot act. At least be intellectually honest when you argue. If you don't like the patriot act because you fear it will lead to something worse fine, but state it as your initial argument, don't try to get away with an outrageous statement and wait for someone to call you on it.