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a second hateful reply to all the other posters on this board:
Sweet Jesus people! 1) If there had been no Catholic church, then the idea of inteligent design would not have been prominent in the west. This means there would have been no majestical God-given system to understand (at least in people's heads at the time), so therefore-- no science. The Catholic church was the biggest supporter of modern, western science since it's inception. So please try to realize that even though we might have problems with the institution-- it has given us the benifits that you now so richly enjoy.
2)If you want to propose to do away with all forms of doctrination ask yourself this: is hard science completely objective? If you honestly think that "hard science" can completely answer all the probelms of the world then there are a few things that you haven't considered-- science is empirical, and humans are fallable-- further, empirical observations are always contingent on who observed them and when and where. What you're left with is faith in science. And this is no different than religious faith.
3)Whereas it may have become socially acceptable to make an argument with no propositions, and a rebuttle can be constituted by merely saying 'X is evil/ wrong/ responible for republicans', this is actually not worth anything as a claim. For the love of the ever-living Christ-child, give us reasons for what you're saying.
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