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Old 10-03-2003, 11:11 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
And like I said, there were LESS gun related deaths in Australia. BUt MURDER was up. So what is your point? Like I said a few times now, after gun bans, murder goes up. I never said GUN MURDER, I said murder, and crime.

Again for the folks at home. Gun Homicides down 20%, but Murder overall UP 20%.

Thanks for providing the acutal document to prove the fact that was already true.
Oh, sorry, I was proving that hospitalizations due to gun crime went down dramatically. The document I linked to only talks about hospital visits, so I don't see how you can say "thanks for providing the actual document." Did you even read it? You want to talk about murder rates. OK.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/f...gures_2002.pdf

Please note figure 9 and the caption that follows:

<b>The percentage of homicides committed with a firearm continued its declining trend since 1969.

In 2001, 16% of homicides involved firearms. The figure was 18% in 2000.
</b>

Again, this is from the same source as the NRA.

You know what's sad? The NRA's figures are deliberately picked to take advantage of a spike in the murder rate from the death of 18 people in the Port Arthur Tragedy, which was somewhat like our Columbine.

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre

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