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Old 09-29-2003, 10:00 AM   #164 (permalink)
matthew330
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Originally posted by filtherton
Originally posted my matthew330

It's not funny really. The woman has much, much more invested biologically in carrying a child to term than the man. The man can just up and leave whenever he wants. He is not forced to carry a prechild in his belly for nine months. What would seem selfish to me is the idea of a man looking at a woman he impregnated and thinking, "fuck, I got it rough."

In your own words "It's your body - your choice" : A guy saying "Fuck - got it rough", what's your problem with that because it is, in essence, agreeing with your position. Again - I think that philosophy is selfish, whoever it comes from.

When you girls arbitrarily decide to have the baby - by law the man cannot just up and leave whenever he wants. You by law have the opportunity to be selfish - we by law do not.

Now if 9 months of carrying a child to term were as profoundly disturbing for a girl who doesn't want the child as you would suggest, I would argue that the psychological impact of aborting the baby is much more profound. Your attempts at convincing them it was just a "prechild" or "fetal tissue" that was disposed of will do little to lessen the impact.

Name me one person who has faced their responsibilites, carried the child to term, and looked back and said "You know what - I really should have just aborted this child." It's your shortsighted "9 months blahblahblah" that is astounding.


Abortion as birth control? Seems a bit high priced compared to the pill or condoms, or whatever other method available. I don't know about the philosophical view, but i guess i wouldn't advocate dentures as a method of tooth care either.
I'll rephrase the question, I think you got the point and just couldn't address it. If you ask any pro-choice person if they have a problem with a particular individual having 8 abortions, they will say yes. And they won't elaborate with a "it costs too much." This is a recognition that there is something inherantly wrong with abortion - and if it's not that it is the taking of a human life, i'd like to know what they think it is.

Off-topic, but we all know pro-abortion is much more accurate a description than pro-choice. When a young girl walks into planned parenthood abortion is practically shoved down her throat with very little information on any other alternatives. What kind of choice is that. "Prechild"?? Come on now - you can say it - psst, there's a baby in there little girl.
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