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Old 09-25-2003, 12:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
Lebell
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Originally posted by MuadDib
No, everyone doesn't know they had a weapons program. They did in the past but it was no longer active. There is no evidence besides our paranoid fear to tell us that they did.

Nerve Gas used in Northern Iraq on Kurds: Medical Group proves use of chemical weapons through forensic analysis

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24 June 1998

UNSCOM CHIEF SAYS IRAQ PUT CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN WARHEADS
(Richard Butler reports on results of lab tests) (880)

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United Nations -- The head of the UN Special Commission overseeing the
destruction of Iraqi weapons (UNSCOM) told the Security Council June
24 that UNSCOM has "utterly, unambiguous" test results showing that
Iraq put VX nerve gas in missile warheads.


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Of course, after we won GW1, we instituted the no fly zones to help protect these people and here was Saddam's response:

Iraq gets aggressive, doubles defenses

WASHINGTON - American warplanes patrolling the no-fly zone over northern Iraq attacked surface-to-air missile installations Wednesday after being targeted by Iraqi radar, U.S. officials said. Initial reports said at least one Iraqi missile was fired but missed the U.S. planes.

The incident underscored an increasingly aggressive Iraqi challenge to the no-fly zones enforced by American and British planes in northern and southern Iraq. President Saddam Hussein has nearly doubled the number of surface-to-air missile batteries in the restricted flight zones and has been using them with increasing frequency to threaten allied pilots, U.S. officials said Tuesday.


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Not to mention he kicked out the weapon's inspectors:

American inspectors arrive in Jordan: U.N. Security Council condemns expulsion

So is it paranoid to be afraid of this maniac?

I don't think so.

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And I'm sorry but the fact is we couldn't find anything and neither could they. At the very least they are just as good at what they do as we are.
See above references. They found plenty, destroyed plenty and had A LOT of questions where the stuff was that they knew was there in 1998 when they got kicked out.


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And what is this about Iraq prematurely striking?
Well, maybe you were too young to be aware of it, but back in 1990, Saddam Hussein decided to invade a little country south of him called Kuwait.

During the ensuing conflict, Hussein tried to turn it into a general Middle Eastern war by launching Scud missles into Isreal. This had the potential for turning the war into a nuclear conflict.

Before that, back in 1980 he attacked his neighbor Iran.

So Saddam has a history of launching unprovoked attacks on neighboring countries as well as his own people.

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We prematurely struck them out of fear of their alleged weapons program.
No, we struck because, based on his track record, it was reasonable to assume that he had WMD's and was in violation of the UN resolution ending the Gulf War.

It was also reasonable to remove a man who has shown he was unstable and willing to attack his neighbors as well as someone who brutalized his own people.

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North Korea does not have a capable long range nuclear weapons program nor does Iran.
Do you read the news?

Tenet: North Korea has ballistic missile capable of hitting U.S.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- North Korea has an untested ballistic missile capable of hitting the United States, top U.S. intelligence officials said Wednesday.



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However, nuclear proliferation is inevitable so long as we have nuclear weapons and threaten to take out any country that attempts to gain a comparable military advantage. Until we get rid of ours all other nations will be raising to get them. Simply owning nukes doesn't make a nation an enemy nor do having a mostly arab populace. Our policies make enemies not weapons.

Are you seriously foolish enough to believe that if we were to unilaterally disarm that the world would happily follow?

That somehow the genie of nuclear weapons can be put back into the bottle?

I agree with you that simply owning nukes is not enough to make a nation our enemy; but attacking our allies and threatening our economic interests in order to gain territory and regional power ARE enough to make you our enemy, not to mention supporting terrorists such as Hussein has done in Isreal.
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