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Old 09-25-2003, 11:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
rodgerd
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Originally posted by Lebell
And while you assert that the UN was effective since we've found no WMD's to date, I would assert that those weapons are safely in Syria, since Hussein liked to move sensitive war material to neighboring countries when he thought he would loose them (witness the planes he moved to Iran and Syria during GW1).
You can assert anything you like. You can assert magic fairies are hiding Hussein and his weapons. Without evidence, this doesn't make it so.

And Hussein never got anything he sent overseas during GW I back. Why would he repeate the mistake?


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Originally posted by Lebell That strategy has proven a winner for NK and will prove a winner for Iran.
This, I agree with. Sadly the present administration has a policy which has, in effect, told others that no matter how perverse a rogue nation you are (North Korea, Pakistan) you will be treated with kid gloves if you have nukes. If you don't, you'll be invaded on a poll-driven whim.

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Originally posted by Lebell If Isreal is smart, they'll take out those Iranian nuke facilities while they can, like they did in Iraq.
It would certainly make a change from their nuclear proliferation efforts in the 80s. Giving nukes to the racist regime in South Africa; way to "never forget",.

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Originally posted by Lebell If they don't, I see a glassy plain where Tel Aviv is within 20 years.
Israel already has nukes. It's highly unlikely Iran or any other nation state in the area that values its existence would use them on Israel.

A further complication for any Moslem would-be destroyer of Israel is that nuking Israel would almost certainly destroy the site of Mohammad's ascent to heaven, which would not make you especially popular with many of your co-religionists, especially those in parts of the world who care somewhat less about the existence or otherwise of Israel.

The biggest risk for nuclear use is probably US ally Pakistan supplying the terrorist groups it supports and hosts (like al-Qaida) with weapons, since such groups aren't interested in their survival, only the death of their enemies, and will compromise their religious beliefs to attain the goal.
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