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Mael · 09-23-2003, 07:47 PM

as much as i "hate" being the asshole, i'm going to have to call bullshit on everyone who has not been in this type of situation but has said that they would have kicked his ass/killed him/insert violent action here. it's easy to talk big when sitting at home in front of the computer, but when the shit hits the fan, it's not so easy. it doesn't even have to be an attmepted rape/violent crime. any emergency situatoin. car accident, whatever. people panic/ignore more often then help. and whentit's actually happening to you, panic happens even more foten. since we don't have to deal with it on a daily basis, we don't really know how we'll handle those situations and if we'll be able to keep our heads.

i've got 2 examples for you.

1. as told to me by my old philosophy prof. while talking about ethis/morality and such... a few years ago, not sure how many, some lady cut offa car full of football players (from a michigan university, not sure whch one) and while stopped on the belle isle bridge, they got out and pulled her from her car. lots of people were around in their cars, but did nothing as this lady, afraid that she was gonna get beaten to death jumped off the bridge to her death. just more evidence that with other people around, nobody helps cause everyones sure someone else will.

2. in august 2002, while i was at work, i was passing the front door coming up the stairs and heard someone yelloing for help. there were other people in the front door foyer area, i was the only one who went out to see if i could help. turns out that 4 people were walking through the quad ouside my building and saw a guy strangling a girl on the ground. they yelled at him, the 2 guys chased after him as he ran. the two ladies started yelling for help. i went out to see what was going on, saw the guys running, but didn't knwo what was happening. so i went to the women and helped them tell 911 where we were. i also had noticed that there were other people leaving the quad as i came out. most people will shy away from getting involved. they don't want to have to deal with possible repercussions of helping, like going to court (i had to go 4 times because of this), they dont' want to risk getting hurt themselves, or they're just plain scared or don't care.

in summary, until you've been through this, or something similar, i'm calling "shenanigans" on anyone who says they'll kill the person.

oh, and to the start of this thread (sorry, forgot who it was nad this computer sucks so much i can't see what i'm typing, i'ts like 5 lines behind where i'm at) kudos to you. don't worry abou that secod hesitation. it's natural. you didn't know what was going on and it took you a moment to figure it out what was happening and assess the situation. if you had just blindly run in, you could of been in a world of trouble (well, probalby not with there being four of you, but if you had been alone) and "her being able to get away" as many have said isn't important if you get hurt too. calling the cops to get help there is the # 1 priority, then trying to intervene in a safe manner. so anyways, you did good.

09-23-2003, 07:47 PM	#39 (permalink)
Mael Banned Location: The Hell I Created.	as much as i "hate" being the asshole, i'm going to have to call bullshit on everyone who has not been in this type of situation but has said that they would have kicked his ass/killed him/insert violent action here. it's easy to talk big when sitting at home in front of the computer, but when the shit hits the fan, it's not so easy. it doesn't even have to be an attmepted rape/violent crime. any emergency situatoin. car accident, whatever. people panic/ignore more often then help. and whentit's actually happening to you, panic happens even more foten. since we don't have to deal with it on a daily basis, we don't really know how we'll handle those situations and if we'll be able to keep our heads. i've got 2 examples for you. 1. as told to me by my old philosophy prof. while talking about ethis/morality and such... a few years ago, not sure how many, some lady cut offa car full of football players (from a michigan university, not sure whch one) and while stopped on the belle isle bridge, they got out and pulled her from her car. lots of people were around in their cars, but did nothing as this lady, afraid that she was gonna get beaten to death jumped off the bridge to her death. just more evidence that with other people around, nobody helps cause everyones sure someone else will. 2. in august 2002, while i was at work, i was passing the front door coming up the stairs and heard someone yelloing for help. there were other people in the front door foyer area, i was the only one who went out to see if i could help. turns out that 4 people were walking through the quad ouside my building and saw a guy strangling a girl on the ground. they yelled at him, the 2 guys chased after him as he ran. the two ladies started yelling for help. i went out to see what was going on, saw the guys running, but didn't knwo what was happening. so i went to the women and helped them tell 911 where we were. i also had noticed that there were other people leaving the quad as i came out. most people will shy away from getting involved. they don't want to have to deal with possible repercussions of helping, like going to court (i had to go 4 times because of this), they dont' want to risk getting hurt themselves, or they're just plain scared or don't care. in summary, until you've been through this, or something similar, i'm calling "shenanigans" on anyone who says they'll kill the person. oh, and to the start of this thread (sorry, forgot who it was nad this computer sucks so much i can't see what i'm typing, i'ts like 5 lines behind where i'm at) kudos to you. don't worry abou that secod hesitation. it's natural. you didn't know what was going on and it took you a moment to figure it out what was happening and assess the situation. if you had just blindly run in, you could of been in a world of trouble (well, probalby not with there being four of you, but if you had been alone) and "her being able to get away" as many have said isn't important if you get hurt too. calling the cops to get help there is the # 1 priority, then trying to intervene in a safe manner. so anyways, you did good.