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Originally posted by analog
Because of the progression of society, more and more women are feeling comfortable with expressing what's in all reality been there all along. With many women, as with many men, there is a desire to have pure, simple access to sex. People just like to get off- not everyone wants a relationship every time they orgasm.
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No, that's not really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about using dishonesty as a method of getting in someone's pants. Specifically, using the implied or specified notion that
there is a relationship forming. It's been suggested thusfar that women don't want to be seen as sluts. That this fear of being a whore is the reason for the manipulation... My only problem is that
I'd take a slut over a manipulative liar any day of the week. I'm willing to bet that a lot of other people would agree.
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Originally posted by analog
Double-standards be damned- if the guy you're talking with is put off by the notion of attachment-free sex, then he is likely not worth having sex with in the first place. That is a closed-minded guy.
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That's not what I'm talking about. Attachment-free sex is fine as long as there is no deception involved.
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Originally posted by analog
And to the guys who bitch about this and spout off about disease and stuff- YOU are the reason any diseases spread when YOU (being males) don't wear condoms. If guys in general (those who don't use condoms) used the big head first, disease would not be a problem- and girls, insist that the guy does, no matter how clean he says he is... he says that to every girl, guaranteed.
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Hmmm. I never mentioned disease as the reason I'm against these 'dates'... but I should add some details about my latest fling with one of these manipulative people.
You see we met on
Match-dot-Com. Generally people dating on the internet are looking for long-term relationships unless they specify otherwise. My date claimed to be looking for one of these. We met for drinks and proceded back to her place. She specified at this time that we weren't going to have sex and that I shouldn't expect it. We did make out though and had as much fun with our clothes on as one could.
A couple of days later she calls me up to see if I wanted to come over and hang out. When I got there, we had some discussions about the 'relationship'. She made it seem like we were starting something up. We had a few drinks, some smoke, and ordered a pizza.
We made out on her couch and she was letting me put my hands on her. She told me that the other night when we were kissing that she thought that I'd be good at going down on her. We made out a little more and then asked me to... but giving a provision that she didn't want anything more than that. I complied... Of course I would -it seemed we were starting something up; and I wanted to impress her.
"Yes, indeed" I thought to myself... I am good at oral sex.
So the rest of the story isn't as exciting. Basically I went home... waited a few, called, and never heard from her again. She sent me an email with the typical bullshit about being busy. A week and a half later, when we eventually got back in contact; she told me that she's too busy right now for a serious relationship.
Okay before people start writing back -claiming that I misconstrued the whole event. I called her recently and she admitted to some deception. She saw me on match-dot-com and thought that I would be a good lover. She didn't know how to approach me so she wrote. When we met, she just let me provide the natural sexual initiative. -She didn't have to disagree to anything other than keeping control. If she led me astray, she's sorry but that's the way things go sometimes.