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Kyo · 09-21-2003, 04:48 PM

Racism is multidirectional - there is no single group as the 'victim', nor any single group as the 'oppressor.' Perhaps it was very black and white (pun intended) a few decades ago - my American history isn't as good as I wish it were - but it isn't true now. Everyone is discriminated against at some time or another. With minorities, it is blatantly obvious, certainly, especially since everyone makes a big deal out of minority injustice.

Minorities will discriminate against majorites if they can - I've seen it happen, talked to others who've had it happen to them, and hell, though I'm not proud to admit it, our own community discriminates against all outsiders, minority or not. My uncle works at a place where the minority management will always hire and promote workers of the same race as them - since my uncle has been there, no worker has been promoted over them, even though they have never performed up to par. The bigwigs upstairs don't care, because most minorities file discrimination lawsuits, majorities and Asians don't.

But this isn't just a case of morals and repaying debts. This is about politics. Blacks and hispanics have political clout. They have enough power that if you do something they don't like (as a collective), they can threaten you and make it stick. That's what it comes down to in America - power, not morality. Discriminating against them, or even giving them the impression that you are, is dangerous - they will slap you with that 'racist' label faster than your lawyers can pop open their briefcases. They will sue your lily white ass. They will put your shiny CEO face in the headlines.

That's why they can wear 'Black and proud' but you get expelled for 'White and proud'. If a minority student is offended, their parents will come in and make a stink to high heaven. Schools don't want that. It's a lot easier to just kick you out - smother the problem. And they know that smothering the member of the majority is always safer than smothering the minorities - because those in the majority don't support each other. Those in the minorities do.

I'm getting out of hand, I admit. But my point is this - things are the way they are because minorities have the power to threaten and make it stick. I believe anyone who thinks 'equality' will be the result of moral enlightenment and repayment of past debts is just deluding themselves.

But back to the main point. Minority clubs exist as a refuge for those that feel out of place or ignored in the general population. It is bringing together people who are of a certain background - much the same way a photography club or a martial arts club might. But I feel this girl is stroking her ego and salving her injured pride. "How come the minorities get a club, but we don't? That's discrimination." She wants to spit our own minority stuff back at us, to show us that she's boss and she's not going to take our minority bullshit sitting down. And that's entirely the wrong reason to start the club. God willing, I'm wrong, but the same thing happened at my old high school several years ago and the only reason the person could come up for starting it was "There's a black student union, why can't I have a caucasian student union?"

Race is the final dividing factor - everything stems from it. People that look different from you obviously have to be different, right? People who look different from you are probably savages or something. Listen to their language, how uncivilized; I mean, really, who would talk like that? OMG keep them away from me.

09-21-2003, 04:48 PM	#30 (permalink)
Kyo Crazy	Racism is multidirectional - there is no single group as the 'victim', nor any single group as the 'oppressor.' Perhaps it was very black and white (pun intended) a few decades ago - my American history isn't as good as I wish it were - but it isn't true now. Everyone is discriminated against at some time or another. With minorities, it is blatantly obvious, certainly, especially since everyone makes a big deal out of minority injustice. Minorities will discriminate against majorites if they can - I've seen it happen, talked to others who've had it happen to them, and hell, though I'm not proud to admit it, our own community discriminates against all outsiders, minority or not. My uncle works at a place where the minority management will always hire and promote workers of the same race as them - since my uncle has been there, no worker has been promoted over them, even though they have never performed up to par. The bigwigs upstairs don't care, because most minorities file discrimination lawsuits, majorities and Asians don't. But this isn't just a case of morals and repaying debts. This is about politics. Blacks and hispanics have political clout. They have enough power that if you do something they don't like (as a collective), they can threaten you and make it stick. That's what it comes down to in America - power, not morality. Discriminating against them, or even giving them the impression that you are, is dangerous - they will slap you with that 'racist' label faster than your lawyers can pop open their briefcases. They will sue your lily white ass. They will put your shiny CEO face in the headlines. That's why they can wear 'Black and proud' but you get expelled for 'White and proud'. If a minority student is offended, their parents will come in and make a stink to high heaven. Schools don't want that. It's a lot easier to just kick you out - smother the problem. And they know that smothering the member of the majority is always safer than smothering the minorities - because those in the majority don't support each other. Those in the minorities do. I'm getting out of hand, I admit. But my point is this - things are the way they are because minorities have the power to threaten and make it stick. I believe anyone who thinks 'equality' will be the result of moral enlightenment and repayment of past debts is just deluding themselves. But back to the main point. Minority clubs exist as a refuge for those that feel out of place or ignored in the general population. It is bringing together people who are of a certain background - much the same way a photography club or a martial arts club might. But I feel this girl is stroking her ego and salving her injured pride. "How come the minorities get a club, but we don't? That's discrimination." She wants to spit our own minority stuff back at us, to show us that she's boss and she's not going to take our minority bullshit sitting down. And that's entirely the wrong reason to start the club. God willing, I'm wrong, but the same thing happened at my old high school several years ago and the only reason the person could come up for starting it was "There's a black student union, why can't I have a caucasian student union?" Race is the final dividing factor - everything stems from it. People that look different from you obviously have to be different, right? People who look different from you are probably savages or something. Listen to their language, how uncivilized; I mean, really, who would talk like that? OMG keep them away from me. __________________ Sure I have a heart; it's floating in a jar in my closet, along with my tonsils, my appendix, and all of the other useless organs I ripped out.