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Originally posted by debaser
[BNow to me, as I stated before, proficiency with a firearms includes weapons retention and CQB techniques. Someone trained thus will not be disarmed. [/B]
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yes, but to most people proficiency with a gun just means you can hit the deer more often than not.
I guess the reason I'd take MA over gun training is because gun training can give you a false sense of security.
Most of the gun people I've talked to have asinine answers to the "what if" questions.
What if you're grabbed by an attacker late at night?
I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.
What if you're threatened by a guy with a knife?
I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.
What if you're held at gunpoint?
I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.
Guns give you two basic options. Threaten someone with the gun, and shoot someone with the gun. If the criminal isn't threatening your life, one of the options - shooting the SOB - goes right out the window. Well maybe it's my martial arts training coming out, but I don't believe in brandishing a weapon that for whatever reason I can't use. If I pull my knife on you, that means I intend to try to kill you with it.
In fact, as stupid as it may sound, there have been some cases where a victim was threatened, the victim pulled
his gun to scare the attacker, the attacker got scared, pulled his own gun and shot the victim, and the killing was justified under the law because the attacker was now in fear of "death or great bodily harm." I think this is ridiculous, but that's the legal system we're working under.
I figure gun training would be supremely useful in a situation where someone is about to kill or seriously injure me or someone I'm with. In any other attack situation, the gun becomes useless because if I use it, I go to jail and rot for a long time. Again IMHO, this shouldn't be - we should approach this more like Texas does, which is the only state that figures if you get shot while robbing a house it's your own damn fault and not the homeowner's. Unfortunately, as long as the other states don't see it that way, and as long as I don't live in Texas, I'm not willing to go to jail just to avoid a beating.
However, I CAN use my MA training to get out of those much more numerous situations where my life isn't threatened but the guy's trying to hurt me.