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Old 09-18-2003, 04:24 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Baldrick
Are you telling me you walk around with your finger on your cocked SIG226 at all times? I'm sorry, but no you don't.

The argument is that in every situation a gun will win over someone trained in martial arts. I agree with you that in many, even in most situations that is the case. But not in every situation. You're grabbed by surprise from behind with surprising force by a very strong foe. You're going to pull your gun, cock it, aim it, and fire before he knifes you or chokes you out? I don't like your chances. And, if your attacker sees a gun while subduing you, it's possible that you have now just elevated the situation to a life or death struggle. Again, this assumes you are in the real world, and not walking around with your gun drawn, loaded, cocked and ready to fire at the turn of every corner.
plus the fact that you can put all the pressure you want on that trigger, but if my hand is jamming the slide/hammer the gun isn't gonna fire. Plus the fact that in most disarms I'm not gonna care if the gun fires. I'm not gonna sit there letting the gun stay aimed at me through the disarm - i'm gonna move off of the line of fire while disarming you.

And notice that in my example I didn't say the guy was after your wallet. Sometimes people just try to kill someone without a robbery motive.

The situation where a gun is better than martial arts is as follows: Your attacker is about 20 feet away charging at you and has a knife drawn. If he has a gun drawn, he has the drop on you and can shoot you if you reach for your gun. If he has no weapon and you shoot him, get ready to go to jail for a very long time because you just committed manslaughter at the least, possibly murder. If he's within range and has a knife, get ready to get cut to ribbons as you reach for your now useless gun.

Fact is that unless you get the drop on your attacker, which rarely happens, guns aren't gonna help you as much as martial arts will. If you're properly trained in H2H combat, you can fight your way out of a situation where someone got the drop on you (which, btw, will happen much less to a trained martial artist than it will to Joe Citizen). Even if you're properly trained in gun use (which most gun carriers are not) you still have to reach into your jacket/pocket/wherever you're concealing the weapon, chamber a round, take the safety off, raise the weapon, aim, and FINALLY fire. Your attacker most likely already has his gun out, the safety (if it has one) is off, the weapon is ready to fire, and he's already got it pointing at you. So while you're busy getting READY to shoot, he's shooting. This is, as was pointed out, assuming you don't walk around with the gun out and ready to fire at all times.
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