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seretogis:
Sorry, I didn't realize that this was a formal debate and I was required to contend every single point made by rgr22j. Considering the other 2/3 didn't relate to the 1/3 I chose to contest I didn't find it necessary. But, if that is all it will take to make you a tad happier I suppose I ought to do so.
While it is true that Nitro contradicted himself by referring to the folks at Gitmo Bay as both POWs and those denied POW status, this is merely a symantical error and irrelevent to his underlying argument. The simple truth is that some of the prisoners are really POWs (such as taliban soldiers) while other are suspected terrorists. The problem is neglect of rights on both fronts. For the non-POWs they shouldn't even be there. They deserve trials and hearing that are public and outside of the military and Gitmo. As for the real POWs they have the right to return home now that the war has ended, saying the war on terror is still ungoing is a cop out and again just symantics. The same logic would allow us to do the same to people found with an ounce of grass in the name of the war on drugs.
I would also like to know if those numbers indicating the greatness of American POW camps have a timeline on them, are averaged, if they take into account concentration camps for Japanese Americans, and if they take into account Native Americans taken captive during our Manifest Destiny. I am suspicious because the US is a relatively young country so our numbers could be misrepresentedly lower while our average might be higher. Also because we have had away of using the term POW in a manner different than the rest of the world typically defines it. And finally because the US is more often involved in joint campaigns in foreign lands which leaves POW camps that the US operated primarily in small wars like the Spanish American, in Iraq, and during our own Civil War.
Finally, I thought my pointing out that the US has tons of international lawyers and frequents international trials was evidence, sere. I mean we did just threaten action in WTO court against the entire EU and file suit there more often more often than almost any other country on the planet. If you don't consider that evidence enough I suppose I could try to root up some links for you that state specifically that the US has tons of internation lawyers and resolves tons of disputes there annually and even maybe one of those cartoons I made reference to in my previous post too. At any rate, I don't want to leave you thinking I am also falling back assumptions so if you do honestly contest these facts/points let me know and I'll be here for ya.
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"The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751
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