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Old 09-17-2003, 06:39 AM   #25 (permalink)
rgr22j
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Originally posted by Nitro
Well that was then.
If you are a POW you go home after the war has ended. With the US' clever definition of this "war against terror" the "war" maybe never ends. The prisoners can look forward to a lenghty stay.

Nope! All international law applies not only the geneva convention.
Anyway the US in in breach of the convention as it denies the prisoners their rightful status of prisoner of war as the ICRC has allready pointed out on numerous occasions.
The visits of the ICRC in Gitmo are only allowed by the US on a good will basis while according to the convention they are a must. US Governement says that Gitmo prisoners are not POW and therefore are not protected by the convention.http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...020207-13.html
There is no such thing as "international law." Some countries are better than others at respecting it, others are not. Technically the US doesn't even have to respect the Geneva Convention, despite signing it, but typically most Western nations do. International law exists as purely as a political construct; believe me when I say that sovereign nations routinely flout "international law," laws which are not codified, voted on, or signed on by all member nations in any document anywhere.

You double back on yourself here; you say that the US must release the prisoners but for a clever twist of the tongue, defined a "War on Terror" that extended the "war," but then you say the White House doesn't define them as POWs. If the White House doesn't define them as POWs, then the Geneva Convention doesn't apply. Perhaps you can dispute their definition of the prisoners at Gitmo (which can be disputed), but under the current circumstances they are not in violation of the Geneva Convention.


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Originally posted by Nitro
You got proof or just voicing a feeling? Good food and a roof over the head doesn't mean it's a picnic out there. It's a detention camp where people are held ouside of the law. To me that sounds pretty inhumane.
You have proof that the US isn't? We have had the lowest death rate in POW camps of any nation in history, the highest rate of repatriation, and this whole thing about reconstructing Germany, Japan, and now Iraq after going to war with them.

-- Alvin
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